Another transl. of "real'noe uchilishche"
Edward M Dumanis
dumanis at BUFFALO.EDU
Thu Mar 26 18:11:56 UTC 2009
One can find about "real'noe uchilishche" on
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%89%D0%B5
where possibly unreadable characters stand for "real'noe uchilishche" in
Russian.
One can conclude then that it was not a trade or tech school as we
understand it in US.
The essential difference is that "real'noe uchilishche" did not teach
trade but rather the subjects important in trade and technology: Math,
Physics, Drawing, etc.
I'd call such a school "Science & Technology (Magnet) High School" (with
reduced teaching of humanities).
Sincerely,
Edward Dumanis <dumanis at buffalo.edu>
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Prof Steven P Hill wrote:
> Dear colleagues:
>
> Prof Katsell asked me to post his suggestions how to translate
> "real'noe uchilishche" to US English. They follow. -- SPH (Hill).
> ________________________________________________________________
>
> Date: Thu 26 Mar 10:04:21 CDT 2009
> From: Jerome Katsell <jerry3 at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: "real'noe uchilishche"
> To: s-hill4 at ILLINOIS.EDU
>
> Dear Prof. Hill:
>
> I'm writing off line because I can't seem to get through to
> SEELANGS. Perhaps you would be so kind
> so as to pass along the following speculation, nothing more
> than that, as to an idiomatic sounding translation
> of "real'noe uchilishche" in US English. "Trade school" seems
> to me to be the closest term. Of course, Russian does
> have "remeslennoe uchilishche," and the register of "trade
> school" may be just below the mark.
>
> In Harbin, China in the 1920s and later, there was a
> "kommercheskoe uchilishche" that was the best high school
> around for the Russo-phone community, but, I believe,
> subjects in the humanities were also taught in addition
> to business-oriented subject matter. Simon Karlinsky attended
> Harbin's "kommercheskoe uchilishche."
>
> Inna referred to "post-secondary" education, but my
> understanding is that "uchilishche," at least these days, would
> mean secondary education in specialized subject matter, a
> trade school, or vocational school..
>
> Thank you, and best wishes,
> Jerry Katsell
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