Estimate needed

Goloviznin Konstantin kottcoos at mail.ru
Mon Jun 18 14:15:22 UTC 2012


Btw, how it really works you can look here (Petrov's "Polyglot" = English for 16 lessons = Dragunkin-like approach) - http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3937119   

Moreover, what about Dragunkin's "opredeliteli" and his explanation (or approach to) of English tenses ? 

Konstantin 

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:17:34 +0100 от John Dunn <John.Dunn at GLASGOW.AC.UK>:
> I have only looked through a few pages, but so far I am firmly in the second camp.  I accept that this sort of course is not intended for the likes of me (or, more accurately, the Russian equivalent of the likes of me), but I do wonder how much usable English can be acquired from this particular book.  To me the manner of presentation is supremely irritating, though others may disagree, but a more serious problem is the unreal nature of many of the examples.  The course also risks leaving the user stranded in mid-Atlantic: the pronunciation is not really explained, but the transcriptions suggests a distant approximation to what the BBC used to call 'educated Southern English speech', while some of the examples are more indicative of American English (color, these guys).
> 
> John Dunn.
> 
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> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Estimate needed
> 
> Resending as I overlooked Mr. Goloviznin's redirection of replies to his
> private address.
> 
> Goloviznin Konstantin wrote:
> 
> > Dear Seelangers,
> >
> > There is some new method of teaching  English called "English by
> > A.Dragunkin".  Opinions    between russianspeaking are divided into two.
> > Some consider it revolutionary (I do  this way too) and the others see
> > it a bit of nothing or even harmful.  So it would very interesting to
> > know what you think of this. Dragunkin's "Little leap into English for
> > 115 min" can be downloaded from here:
> >
> > <http://ptlib.narod.ru/books/Dragunkin_Maliy.Pryjok.2010.pdf >
> 
> A cursory look suggests to me that it's wrong-headed in many respects,
> but I'm no pedagogue. Some self-taught individuals may find it useful;
> there are a lot of different learning styles. At any rate, no one can
> reasonably expect to finish learning a language in (not "for") 115
> minutes, and the author must intend the learner to continue his studies
> elsewhere after this jump-start.
> 
> I assume he's aiming for British English since he doesn't believe in
> postvocalic /r/, so I can't really evaluate his guidance on
> pronunciation. Much of that strikes me as completely alien, but BE
> speakers may react differently.
> 
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> http://pbg-translations.com
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