Stress marks: Word, from PC to a Mac
Richard Robin
rrobin at EMAIL.GWU.EDU
Mon Oct 6 15:58:03 UTC 2014
And one more thing: with U+0301 and stress marks, stay away from Georgia,
everyone's favorite internet font. In many iterations (like this one),
зна́ки ударе́ния пока́зываются на непра́вильной бу́кве.
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:23 PM, David Crawford <davidecrawford at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Some caveats:
>
> 1. U+0301 is more specifically known as the "combining acute accent"
> mark; there is a "non-combining", identical-looking character also whose
> behavior will be different. The combining diacritic marks are essentially
> "zero width", i.e. they appear over the preceding character after which
> they are inserted rather than advancing horizontally and occupying its "own
> character space" following the previous character. Just be sure you're
> inserting combining marks by whatever method you use. This also goes for
> graves, umlauts, and some of the OCS squiggles as well, should one venture
> further afield than just verbal stress for Russian.
>
> 2. Make sure whatever font you use is Unicode compliant and has both the
> combining accents and Cyrillic (a statement of the self-evident). If you
> stick with the "standards" (i.e. boring, like Times New Roman, Arial,
> Verdana, etc) you should be OK. There are a lot of nice looking Russian
> fonts around that have never been brought up to full unicode compliance, or
> don't have the combining diacritics.
>
> 3. If you're using Windows fonts, make sure they are up-to-date
> versions. Those shipped with Office 2007 and XP did not behave well with
> vertical placement of combining accents, usually placing them way too high
> on a line of text and thereby forcing an increase in spacing between
> vertically adjacent lines of text. The resulting look was unacceptable.
> If you have either Office 2010+ or Win7+, you should be OK. If you observe
> the symptoms, find someone who does have the up-to-date software, copy
> their ttf/otf files for the fonts you wish to use, and manually install
> them on your computer, which will over-write the old fonts. You've paid for
> them already, IMHBCO, but MS hasn't been pushing updates for just fonts.
>
> 4. Printing to pdf from MSWord etc has its own set of problems due to
> rendering of fonts and combining diacritics. Out of the Windows freebies,
> we've had the best results using BullZip pdf printer. Microsoft's own pdf
> printer completely trashed the layout even using Times New Roman fonts at
> last attempt in the Office 2010 era; I haven't tried it again since Office
> 2013 erupted onto the market.
>
> 5. No advice to offer for Mac users, sorry.
>
> FWIW, I can report that Thunderbird mail 31 on Ubuntu 14.04.1 is rendering
> accented я́блоко correctly. And, in response to the last post, I have fond
> memories of my brief stay at the GWU dorms en route to Moscow with ACTR,
> except for the part about food poisoning picked up at a nearby eating
> establishment that took most of the way to Frankfurt from which to
> recover. ;-)
>
> dc
>
> On 10/05/2014 04:51 PM, Richard Robin wrote:
>
>> The solution for PCs is Unicode character U+301, acute accent mark. This
>> is a universal accent mark, understood by nearly all
>> platforms and nearly all programs (except some Kindle devices), e.g. you
>> should be able to see the accent mark over *я́блоко*.
>>
>>
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