Stress marks: Word, from PC to a Mac

Tue Oct 7 18:21:08 UTC 2014

Nitro Reader is also a good, free program to convert Word documents to PDFs.

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On 6 October 2014 16:58, Richard Robin <rrobin at email.gwu.edu> wrote:

> And one more thing: with U+0301 and stress marks, stay away from Georgia,
> everyone's favorite internet font. In many iterations (like this one),
> зна́ки ударе́ния пока́зываются на непра́вильной бу́кве.
>
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:23 PM, David Crawford <davidecrawford at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Some caveats:
>>
>> 1.  U+0301 is more specifically known as the "combining acute accent"
>> mark;  there is a "non-combining", identical-looking character also whose
>> behavior will be different.  The combining diacritic marks are essentially
>> "zero width", i.e. they appear over the preceding character after which
>> they are inserted rather than advancing horizontally and occupying its "own
>> character space" following the previous character.  Just be sure you're
>> inserting combining marks by whatever method you use.  This also goes for
>> graves, umlauts, and some of the OCS squiggles as well, should one venture
>> further afield than just verbal stress for Russian.
>>
>> 2.  Make sure whatever font you use is Unicode compliant and has both the
>> combining accents and Cyrillic (a statement of the self-evident).  If you
>> stick with the "standards" (i.e. boring, like Times New Roman, Arial,
>> Verdana, etc) you should be OK. There are a lot of nice looking Russian
>> fonts around that have never been brought up to full unicode compliance, or
>> don't have the combining diacritics.
>>
>> 3.  If you're using Windows fonts, make sure they are up-to-date
>> versions.  Those shipped with Office 2007 and XP did not behave well with
>> vertical placement of combining accents, usually placing them way too high
>> on a line of text and thereby forcing an increase in spacing between
>> vertically adjacent lines of text.  The resulting look was unacceptable.
>> If you have either Office 2010+ or Win7+, you should be OK.  If you observe
>> the symptoms, find someone who does have the up-to-date software, copy
>> their ttf/otf files for the fonts you wish to use, and manually install
>> them on your computer, which will over-write the old fonts. You've paid for
>> them already, IMHBCO, but MS hasn't been pushing updates for just fonts.
>>
>> 4.  Printing to pdf from MSWord etc has its own set of problems due to
>> rendering of fonts and combining diacritics.  Out of the Windows freebies,
>> we've had the best results using BullZip pdf printer.  Microsoft's own pdf
>> printer completely trashed the layout even using Times New Roman fonts at
>> last attempt in the Office 2010 era;  I haven't tried it again since Office
>> 2013 erupted onto the market.
>>
>> 5.  No advice to offer for Mac users, sorry.
>>
>> FWIW, I can report that Thunderbird mail 31 on Ubuntu 14.04.1 is
>> rendering accented я́блоко correctly.  And, in response to the last post, I
>> have fond memories of my brief stay at the GWU dorms en route to Moscow
>> with ACTR, except for the part about food poisoning picked up at a nearby
>> eating establishment that took most of the way to Frankfurt from which to
>> recover.  ;-)
>>
>> dc
>>
>> On 10/05/2014 04:51 PM, Richard Robin wrote:
>>
>>> The solution for PCs is Unicode character U+301, acute accent mark. This
>>> is a universal accent mark, understood by nearly all
>>> platforms and nearly all programs (except some Kindle devices), e.g. you
>>> should be able to see the accent mark over *я́блоко*.
>>>
>>>
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