clouds in Stoney

[Bruce Ingham]

That's interesting they're cognate with the words for 'shade,
shadow' in Lakota, ohaNzi.  Do these then mean shadow of the
cloud on the mountains or forest?  Queen Victoria was referred to
as the Grandmother uNci or uNcis^i in Lakota and Canada as uNci
thamakhoche 'Grandmother land', but I'm sure you know that.
Presumably they've forgotten about Queen Vic.

Bruce


Date sent:      	Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:46:35 -0500
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From:           	"Erik D. Gooding" <egooding at iupui.edu>
To:             	siouan at lists.colorado.edu, siouan at lists.colorado.edu
Subject:        	Re: clouds in Stoney

Here are the cloud terms I collected for the two Stoney dialects:

Mountain: ohanthi
Forest: Ohazi

I didn't collect terms for president, since all Stoney live in Canada. I
guess I should have asked for a term for Prime Minister, but I didn't. The
word for queen  I got from one person  was wiNyahuNga ''woman-beloved"

Erik


At 08:27 AM 02/15/2001 -0600, Richard L. Dieterle wrote:
>Here are some forms from Winnebago:
>
>maNxi, sky, clouds, heaven, air
>maNghira, the sky [Tiver-Radin]
>maxi wange'ja, heaven, sky ("sky above") [Gatschet]
>
>The following forms are interesting because -wi also happens to be the plural
>suffix:
>
>maxiwi,	cloud, clouded sky [Gatschet]
>maxiwi, ka-a	that cloud [Gatschet]
>maxiwi nige,	"piece of cloud" (lit., "cloud  forming") [Gatschet]
>maNxiwi,	cloud [Radin-Marino]
>maxiwixiwi,	cloudy [Gatschet]
>MaNxiwimaniga,	He who Walks in the Cloud, a personal name in the Bird Clan
>[Radin]
>MaNxiwiwak'anjaNk'a,	Sacred Cloud, a personal name in the Bird Clan [Radin]
>
>The Winnebago also have another word for cloud that also seems to mean "sky":
>
>ke(ra), (the) cloud [Radin-Marino]
>K'eratcosepga,	Black Sky (the firmament), a personal name in the Bird Clan
>[Radin]
>
>The last seems to come from k'era, "the sky," tco, "blue," and sep, "black,"
>with -ga indicating a personal name.
>
>Sometimes the sky is denoted in the following way:
>
>tcora,	sky ("the blue") [Radin-Marino]
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Dr. Bruce Ingham
Reader in Arabic Linguistic Studies
SOAS