dhaN 'past' in OP
R. Rankin
rankin at ku.edu
Sun Jun 23 20:49:04 UTC 2002
> I should point out that if I'm right about "used to"
as a working gloss,
> that this is a sort of past durative or imperfect.
If the gloss is
> actually something more liek "once" then it would be
an aorist or
> preterite (or perfective).
I had to come up with an analysis for the Quapaw
cognate for the Quapaw sketch I did for the Hardy and
Scancarelli volume that will appear someday. This was
in about 1994 or 5. I think I decided, based on the
autobiography of Alphonsus Valliere I used as a sample
of the language, that it should be labeled 'imperfect'.
Based on John's examples, I think most of the Dhegiha
uses of it sort of fit that mold. Outside of DH I
simply have no idea though. We know it forms part of
Dakota k-?uN 'this completed...' and the Omaha
cognate/analog (e)gaN. Beyond that I don't know.
Bob
>
> > "... e'=di dha'=zhi=a he," ehe' dhaN', s^aN' s^i'
e'gaN, ...
> > there dont't go DEC I said PAST yet you
arrived there having
> >
> > Don't go there, I [used to] say, and just as
soon as you got there
> > ...
> >
> > 1890:17.9
> >
> > "Ppahe'=wadhahuni ujna'= khe= dhaN
t?e'=adhe," a'=bi= ama
> > Hill he eats them you told it CONT PAST I killed
him he said QUOT
> >
> > I have killed (the) Devouring Hill that you [used
to] tell of," he said.
> >
> > 1890:28.17
>
> On reflection, I have realized that khe (a positional
auxiliary or
> article) here is not a continuative. That is, even
if Ppahe'=wadhahuni
> or 'Devouring Hill' governs the khe 'the (lying)'
form of the article, it
> is not the subject here, and so khe isn't a
continuative marker. The
> alternative (and more normal with inanimate articles)
is an evidential
> marker. though this seems a strange context for one.
If khe is
> evidential, then this example shows khe and dhaN
cooccurring, which would
> argue that dhaN cannot be seen as an evidential
itself.
>
> Unfortunately, what I really have here is a
deceptively simple sentence
> that I don't understand the syntax of.
>
> > "Ni'as^iNga=ama e'=di hi'= hnaN=dhaN=di,
> > Person the there he arrived only PAST LOC
> >
> > Note that in this last sentence Dorsey glosses
=hnaN (modern =naN) as
> > 'only' and elaborates by explaining 'only arrived'
as 'arrived (as a
> > rule)'. English 'just' seems a good rendition.
> >
> > 1890:32.3-4
>
> Note also that here we have s^naN ~ hnaN ~ naN
cooccurring with dhaN,
> showing that they are different.
>
> JEK
>
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