MVS -> OP stop series ?

[Koontz John E]

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, R. Rankin wrote:
> I can't recall at the moment if we had real instances of initial *th in
> Dakotan. The reconstruction behind the set DAK h-, WINN j- and DHEG th-
> is *rh- (Allan Taylor's 1970's paper on motion verbs).  These, in turn,
> probably stem from earlier *rV-h-, where the *rV- was probably a deictic
> or maybe the verb *re: 'go'.  But maybe there are initial *th examples
> too.  I'll have to do a search, something that is becoming harder and
> harder as Windows XP will no longer permit me to access the CSD files
> with their proper fonts.  I have to crank up a Windows 98 machine with
> the files on it.

Actually, I'd forgotten, it's not just initially.  This is Taylor's *rh,
of course, and one or two cases of it may derived from *r(V)-h, as in *thi
'arrive here' and *the/*thaN [vertical positional].  But this is also the
set in *thu 'to have intercourse with', *pethaN 'to fold', *phethaN
'crane' (the avian kind), *(wa)the 'skirt', *(o)thiN 'strike', *=thaN
'extent; from', *maNthe 'inside, under'.

About the only set I can think of immediately where *th comes out th in
Dakotan is *maNtho' 'grizzly'.  There's also *(h)i(N)thuN-ka 'mouse', and
*othaN 'wear leggings' (not voiced in Winnebago-Chiwere), and so entirely
anomalous.

> > Many *ph become h.
>
> This is true in Omaha, Ponca and, as I recall, Quapaw, but not in Osage
> or Kansa.  I *think* most of these *ph > h cases are bi-morphemic, i.e.,
> the *p part is a different morpheme historically from the h, which
> begins the root.  I guess the place to check for crucial examples might
> be the 1st sg. of the verb /hi/ and the noun 'mosquito'.  But this
> probably isn't saying much, as most examples of /ph/ were bi-morphemic.

OP phi 'I arrived there'
OP nahaNga 'mosquito'

OP has *ph in e'giphe 'I said it (to him)', but not ehe' 'I said (the
preceding)'.  It has ph in aNphaN 'elk'.  It has h in the 'follow' set and
in u'he 'mortar' (*phe 'to pound').

I had forgotten that Quapaw also has h < *ph as often as not.  I assumed
Rory was asking only about OP.

JEK