St. Louis?

Anthony Grant Granta at edgehill.ac.uk
Mon Mar 29 18:19:34 UTC 2004


Dear all:

Dave's thinking of the Allan Taylor article in the Festschrift for Christoph Wolfart, which deals with the origin of the word for 'Mexican; in Arapaho and Gros Ventre.

Anthony

>>> pankihtamwa at earthlink.net 29/03/2004 18:08:40 >>>
All I know about the name for St. Louis in Algonquian is that the Shawnee
name for it is peenhko (Gatschet's <pê'nkû>), and the Mesquakie form is
pe:ko:neki (a locative). These are apparently borrowings from French 'Pain
Court'. However, it's been so long since I thought about this, I can't
remember at the moment why it was named after 'Pain Court', or what 'Pain
Court' really meant. I think somewhere there's an article that explains
this. Bob, does this ring a bell?

Dave Costa

>
> I'm wondering about the name for St. Louis in native languages.  For OP,
> Dorsey has Ppa'hi-z^i'de, "Red Neck", as a term for the inhabitants.
> Fletcher and La Flesche give Ppahi'-z^ide ttoNwoN, "Red Hair town", with
> the note "Referring to the color of Governor Clark's hair".  I've had it in
> mind that the latter explanation was confirmed by the Osage form, but I
> can't seem to find a reference.  Can anyone point me to further information
> on this?  I'd be especially interested knowing the name for it in Osage,
> Kaw, Iowa-Oto, or even Algonquian languages.
>



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