Fw: Iowa-Ho-Chunk Languages

[Marino]

Some attention!?  The Plains volumes are invaluable.  If no one has yet
said thank-you for your efforts, then:

         Thank you!

Mary

At 02:33 PM 3/16/2005, you wrote:
>As editor of the Plains volume I feel compelled to note that the Sioux
>synonymy was written by Doug Parks, not Ives Goddard.  I am gratified to
>see the Siouanists pay at least some attention to the Handbook.
>
>Ray DeMallie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>[mailto:owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of david costa
>Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:11 PM
>To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>Subject: Re: Fw: Iowa-Ho-Chunk Languages
>
>Yes, Goddard lays out the real etymologies for these
>terms on page 749 of the Handbook, volume 13 (Plains), in the
>synonymy section of DeMallie's 'Sioux Until 1850' chapter.
>
>dave
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "R. Rankin" <rankin at ku.edu>
>Sent: Mar 16, 2005 11:58 AM
>To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>Subject: Re: Fw: Iowa-Ho-Chunk Languages
>
>Yes, that used to be the common story, but more recent
>work by Goddard seems to show that these old stories
>(widely repeated on dozens of internet sites most of
>which seem to plagiarize from others) were mostly
>untrue, with the term referring to "those who speak a
>different language."  Apparently the two words are
>somewhat similar.  Koontz's web site has probably the
>best discussion:
>http://spot.colorado.edu/~koontz/faq/etymology.htm#Sioux
>
>Bob
>
> >I have read two versions of the origin of Sioux:
> >
> > 1. The word Sioux is a French Canadian rendering of
> > the Ojibway word nadewisou, meaning "treacherous
> > snakes."
> >
> > 2. The word Sioux is taken from the abbreviated
> > Algonquin (Ojibway or Ottawa) compound, nadowe
> > meaning "snake" plus siu meaning "little," and the
> > French Canadian rendering of it was spelled
> > Nadouéssioux.