Comparative Siouan Grammar workshop

Bryan James Gordon linguista at gmail.com
Tue Sep 23 22:21:54 UTC 2008


Let's not forget that /w/ in both Japanese and O'odham surfaces as a
bilabial fricative in certain contexts [ɸ]. I believe that in both languages
the /w/ is produced with tensed rather than rounded lips, and has a much
lesser velar component than in English.

I thought y'all were talking about Ponca stops for a minute...now calling
them sonorants would explain the four-way stop contrast!

- BJG

2008/9/23 <rwd0002 at unt.edu>

> Thanks Bob for interesting comments.  I would be happy to write a short
> piece on noun incorporation across Siouan, as indicated in the schedule.  I
> pretty much have all I need for Dakotan and for Crow (thanks to Randy's
> superb grammar), but if people could send me info about the other
> languages/subdivisions, that would be helpful.
>
> I agree that phonetic obstruents as phonological sonorants is very
> interesting theoretically. There are nice parallels in Athabascan.  What is
> reconstructed as Proto-Ath *w comes out as [w], or [m], but in some
> languages as voiced obstruent [b], functioning as a sonorant.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Willem
>
>
> Bob Rankin wrote:
>
>  Phonetic obstruents as phonological sonorants (b, d, g; m, n, ng; w, r,
>> l).
>>
>
>


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Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology
University of Arizona
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