Tutelo-Saponi Directionals
David Kaufman
dvklinguist2003 at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 1 19:16:02 UTC 2009
So apparently one could write these: tookhaa mi hiiyata and tookhaa mi klee, if I'm reading this right.
Dave
--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Rankin, Robert L <rankin at ku.edu> wrote:
From: Rankin, Robert L <rankin at ku.edu>
Subject: RE: Tutelo-Saponi Directionals
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 8:25 AM
The colon after a vowel means that vowel is long, i.e., the pronunciation is drawn out. Long vowels are typically about one and a half times as long in duration as short vowels. All the Siouan languages except Dakota have long and short vowels.
The "h" after p, t, ch, or k marks aspiration. It is like an actual H sound after the consonant. P with the little H would be like the ph of "loophole". KH, as in tokha, would be like "backhoe". I normally just use the letter "h" rather than the raised h.
Your parse of the words for 'west' look right to me. I don't know the 'east' term, but you obviously have the right idea.
Best,
Bob
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From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Scott Collins
Sent: Sat 10/31/2009 9:32 PM
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Tutelo-Saponi Directionals
Going back to the question on the directional words in Tutelo-Saponi. I have taken the advice here and come up with the following let me know if it is correct or not.
the West = to:ka: mi hi:yata
mi = sun
to:ka: = where
hi:yata = sleep
There is a lowercase "h" between k and a in to:ka: but I do not have a font for that nor do I understand the ":" part of the word.
Also would East then be to:ka: mi kle:?
kle: = awake
Scott P. Collins
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