a JOD H. cognate entry
Iren Hartmann
wipamankere at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 16 21:25:06 UTC 2010
Bob,
I guess what made me doubt that it’s Hoocąk was the fact that it’s a sort
of motion verb that starts with an /a/. There are hardly any verbs in
Hoocąk that begin with /a/, and most those have incorporated the noun aa ’arm’.
Unless it is a combination of aaki (across) + a deictic motion verb (gii?!),
but then where does the /u/ come from?
The only other plausible analysis I can think of is that it’s a combination
of hagu ’fetch’ and gii ’arrive back there’
If you can shed any more light on this I’m more than willing to check it
with a speaker when I’m back in the field this May.
Cheers,
Iren
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From: "Rankin, Robert L" <rankin at ku.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:52 PM
To: <siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: RE: a JOD H. cognate entry
> Thanks Iren!
>
> The cognate part seems to be a-gu-ki. The -na would have to be something
> else. A diminutive in Dakota, an article in Hocank. Who knows? If it
> were Hidatsa I wouldn't expect an /n/ in the middle of a word, but, again,
> who knows?
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Iren Hartmann
> Sent: Tue 2/16/2010 3:21 AM
> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> Subject: RE: a JOD H. cognate entry
>
>
> Mark, Bob,
>
> for what it's worth, I don't think that this is Hooca?k. I've never come
> across a word like this, and I've checked the database too.
>
> Mark, maybe you could send me some more examples of what is marked "H." in
> the slip files? I might be able to help you more then.
>
> Cheers,
> Iren
>
>> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:09:11 -0600
>> From: rankin at ku.edu
>> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
>> Subject: RE: a JOD H. cognate entry
>>
>> I blew it up some and it is: H. aku-kina with a little x beneath the
>> first k. I can't tell if it's Hoca,k or not. It looks like it might be.
>> So the k with the x would probably be a /g/. We'll see if John thinks
>> it's Hidatsa.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Jimm GoodTracks
>> Sent: Sat 2/13/2010 1:38 PM
>> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
>> Subject: Re: a JOD H. cognate entry
>>
>> For me, Mark, the image is too small even with my magnifying glass, jgt
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mark J Awakuni-Swetland
>> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
>> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:25 AM
>> Subject: a JOD H. cognate entry
>>
>>
>>
>> Aloha all,
>> Here is the first example of an H. cognate for agi'ki.
>> Is this, in fact, Hochank (Winnebago)?
>> Thanks!
>> Mark
>>
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