a JOD H. cognate entry

Jimm GoodTracks jgoodtracks at gmail.com
Tue Feb 16 22:11:41 UTC 2010


It could be an IOM verb too.  However, in that case, how would one interpret 
the "H."?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Iren Hartmann" <wipamankere at hotmail.com>
To: <siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: a JOD H. cognate entry


> Bob,
>
> I guess what made me doubt that it’s Hoocąk was the fact that it’s a sort 
> of motion verb that starts with an /a/. There are hardly any verbs in 
> Hoocąk that begin with /a/, and most those have incorporated the noun aa 
> ’arm’. Unless it is a combination of aaki (across) + a deictic motion verb 
> (gii?!), but then where does the /u/ come from?
> The only other plausible analysis I can think of is that it’s a 
> combination of hagu ’fetch’ and gii ’arrive back there’
> If you can shed any more light on this I’m more than willing to check it 
> with a speaker when I’m back in the field this May.
>
> Cheers,
> Iren
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rankin, Robert L" <rankin at ku.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:52 PM
> To: <siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU>
> Subject: RE: a JOD H. cognate entry
>
>> Thanks Iren!
>>
>> The cognate part seems to be a-gu-ki.  The -na would have to be something 
>> else.  A diminutive in Dakota, an article in Hocank.  Who knows?  If it 
>> were Hidatsa I wouldn't expect an /n/ in the middle of a word, but, 
>> again, who knows?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Iren Hartmann
>> Sent: Tue 2/16/2010 3:21 AM
>> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
>> Subject: RE: a JOD H. cognate entry
>>
>>
>> Mark, Bob,
>>
>> for what it's worth, I don't think that this is Hooca?k. I've never come 
>> across a word like this, and I've checked the database too.
>>
>> Mark, maybe you could send me some more examples of what is marked "H." 
>> in the slip files? I might be able to help you more then.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Iren
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:09:11 -0600
>>> From: rankin at ku.edu
>>> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
>>> Subject: RE: a JOD H. cognate entry
>>>
>>> I blew it up some and it is:  H. aku-kina with a little x beneath the 
>>> first k.  I can't tell if it's Hoca,k or not.  It looks like it might 
>>> be. So the k with the x would probably be a /g/.  We'll see if John 
>>> thinks it's Hidatsa.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Jimm GoodTracks
>>> Sent: Sat 2/13/2010 1:38 PM
>>> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: a JOD H. cognate entry
>>>
>>> For me, Mark, the image is too small even with my magnifying glass, jgt
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Mark J Awakuni-Swetland
>>>   To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
>>>   Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:25 AM
>>>   Subject: a JOD H. cognate entry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Aloha all,
>>>   Here is the first example of an H. cognate for agi'ki.
>>>   Is this, in fact, Hochank (Winnebago)?
>>>   Thanks!
>>>   Mark
>>>
>>
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