School: ttappuska
Rory M Larson
rlarson at unlnotes.unl.edu
Fri Jul 23 21:24:18 UTC 2010
Hi Jim,
We have wagoN'ze for 'teacher' in modern Omaha too, I think from the root
term goN'ze, 'to teach'. I'm actually looking for a word like */ taputhka
/ though, maybe meaning 'teacher', 'teach' or 'school'. Since you don't
mention it, would you say that there is no such word in IOM?
Also, I wonder if you would know the word for a bird's crop in IOM? (That
might be a little obscure!)
Thanks!
Rory
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Re: School: ttappuska
Yes, it is in IOM: wo'guNdhe "where you learn s.t.; wagu'Ndhe(mi)
"teaches/ shows s.t. (fem). From: gigu'Ndhe (point; show; indicate).
The word in Pawnee is correct, but I am unable to give an anylisis. Doug
Parks is at Indiana University, Bloomington, IN. Sorry, I don’t have his
em-address at the moment. jgt
From: Rory M Larson
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Subject: School: ttappuska
Hi all,
I've been looking at the Omaha term ttappuska, presently meaning 'school',
but apparently meaning 'schoolteacher' in the 19th century. It also
appears in Osage, in both the La Flesche dictionary and in Carolyn
Quintero's recent "Osage Dictionary", where it is listed as taapo'ska. I
think is nicely analyzable in Dhegiha, but Carolyn's entry has the
bracketted note:
[Borrowed from Pawnee taapuska 'school' (Douglas Parks).
The Pawnee word may have entered Osage at different times
in different forms, with or without preaspiration of the
stops (h)t and (h)p and with a long or short vowel aa
or a; it is losing or has lost the preaspiration in
(h)t and (h)p.]
This claims that the term is actually a loan from Pawnee. I'm wondering
if Douglas Parks is on the list, or if anyone knows how to get in touch
with him, or if anyone else on the list knows Pawnee well enough to
comment? Is the word analyzable in Pawnee, and if so, what is the
meaning?
Also, I'd like to know how widespread the term is. Does it exist in Kaw?
Iowa-Oto? Ponka? Any other language?
Thanks for any advice!
Rory
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