Dakota cognate??

[Rankin, Robert L]

No way.  But I've discovered that what Dorsey has at the bottom of many of his slips are not cognates in our technical sense of the word.  They should probably be called something like "equivalents".  For the other 3 or 4 Dhegiha languages he almost always gives real cognates, and they're usually nearly identical.  Once he gets outside Dhegiha, all bets are off.  He gives a cognate if one was obvious to him, but otherwise he may just give some term with a similar meaning.

Is the O-P form "cuka" that you give here Dorsey's transcription?  In other words, is this [s^uka] or is it [c^uka], with a "ch" sound?  If it's "ch" then I'm wondering what a cognate in the other languages might look like.  "Ch" generally doesn't occur before /u/, so I'm just curious.  Does he give Osage, Kansa or Quapaw cognates for it?

Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Catherine Rudin
Sent: Mon 3/15/2010 2:59 PM
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Dakota cognate??
 
Hi, guys -- I'm just entering some information from Dorsey slips for the Omaha and Ponca dictionary and ran across an odd-looking cognate. Does it make sense for optaye to be Dakota cognate for O-P cuka?

Catherine

here's a link to the slip image
http://omahalanguage.unl.edu/dictionary_images/ck/opd.01.088.08c.jpg