Words for Loss, Lose and Lost

[Rory Larson]

Looking at the dictionary I’ve been working on with our speakers, it appears that the causative uxpare-re is the only one that presently translates as ‘lose’.  The plain uxpare verb mainly means to fall or drop, from a height.

Bryan, Panama roⁿdi uxparerira-baži tʰe udoⁿ!

Rory


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In the Dorsey texts for Omaha and Ponca, "uxpathe" /uxpaðe/ is "lost", and for the transitive "lose" there seems to be a choice of using "uxpathe" or the causative "uxpathethe" /uxpaðe-ðe/.
Bryan

2013/2/25 Scott Collins <saponi360 at yahoo.com<mailto:saponi360 at yahoo.com>>
Thank you Dave, I didn't see that one in the Biloxi dictionary. I must have missed it.





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Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 11:21 AM

The Biloxi word for 'lose' is ka-paha-ni-ye: ka- and -ni are the circumfix for negation; paha means something like 'sight' or 'appearance'; -ye is the causative = something like 'cause to not be in sight' or 'cause to be invisible.'

Dave
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Scott Collins <saponi360 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc1814.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=saponi360@yahoo.com>> wrote:


Hello, I was trying to find the word or words for loss, lose and lost in Tutelo-Saponi.


What would comparative words be in other Dhegiha languages and what would be the literal translation of those words? I'm hoping to be able to extrapolate the word for loss or lost through comparison unless there is a word that is used for loss in Tutelo-Saponi.



I was thinking perhaps "iha:o ki-hiye-nE".

Literally, "no balance".

lE= go, no= yaha or iha:o, and way = hatkox (path)

lE:yaha:hatkox or lE:yahatkox-se

Could these words figure into gone away (lost, lose)...



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WE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR

Evil Is An Outer Manifestation Of An Inner Struggle

“Men and women become accomplices to those evils they fail to oppose.”

"The greater the denial the greater the awakening."




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David Kaufman, Ph.C.
University of Kansas
Linguistic Anthropology



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