Locatives and wa- problems.
Rory Larson
rlarson1 at UNL.EDU
Mon Sep 9 23:46:40 UTC 2013
Thanks, Bob! That helps.
I'm still a bit puzzled by Lakhota chi though. If first person *wa is actually missing from the portmanteau, why isn't the outcome the same as we get for second person *yi alone? And why doesn't second person undergoer *yi itself go to aspirated /chi/ rather than (I think) ni ?
For Dhegiha wi, we apparently get a second *wa after the wi and before the verb when the inflected root starts with a simple stop or *r (non-standard or consonant-type inflection). That fact had thrown me, since it led me to suppose that the *wa came after the *yi rather than before it. But I suppose this is just a secondary reanalysis in Dhegiha making for double inflection? Is it only Dhegiha that does this after the portmanteau?
Best,
Rory
From: Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu] On Behalf Of Rankin, Robert L.
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Subject: Re: Locatives and wa- problems.
> I think that portmanteau is common across MVS, though I don't fully understand the phonology.
Yes, it's irregular.
> Dick Carter worked it out on the board for me for Lakhota /chi-/ once when he was teaching at UNL in the 1990s. He was pleased with himself, but went so fast he left my head spinning.
First person *wa is missing in action. Second person *yi turns up regularly in Lakota as chi because PSI *y becomes aspirated ch in Lakota. This irregular portmanteau is a good part of the evidence for considering the second person historically *y, not r- Irregular morphology retains the more conservative pronominal.
> In Omaha, the corresponding morpheme is /wi(p)/, which again I don't really understand the derivation of.
First person *wa plus second person *yi contracts to wi. And, again, the irregular morphology retains the conservative form -- this time of the 1st person. The W was lost everywhere else in Dhegiha.
Bob
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