Research on Signed/Spoken Language Code switching

Tue Sep 4 10:45:32 UTC 2007

Hoi,
VGT or Vlaamse GebarenTaal ...
Thanks,
    Gerard

On 9/4/07, Lorraine Leeson <leesonl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just as a response - I think that we need to be careful in assuming
> that standarding bodies somehow know best or have the right to
> designate the 'official' name or acronym for a language.
>
> Having worked with the European Union of the Deaf on language
> rcognition issues, I know that this can cause discomfort for Deaf
> communities who feel that the power to name their language is (or
> appears to be) taken out of their hands - there is no problem in real
> terms in having many languages referred to by the same acronyms - sure
> Irish Sign Language and Israeli Sign Language have done so for years!
> When publishing, its normal to introduce the language and acronym that
> is referred to , and consequentially, it does not seem to prove a
> problem. ..and as such, I don't think that Shane's quick fix
> suggestion of changing the acronym associated with the language is
> necessary at all.
>
> Further, there is also the issue of anglocentric approaches to naming
> signed languages here and more and more linguists are opting to use
> both the acronym linked to the local language (e.g. LIU for Jordanian
> Sign Language, VGT for Flemish Sign Language, etc.).
>
> The bottom line is - if its not broken, don't fix it! The current
> approach seems to work well.....or maybe there is disagreement on that
> that I am missing????
>
> Lorraine
>
> On 9/4/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > I am afraid that I do not have a clue why NTS should be exclusively the
> > Norwegian Sign Language. This means that calling it NTS does not resolve
> > when you want to standardise. I had a look and the code for the
> Norwegian
> > Sign Language is "nsl" as this is the ISO-639-3 code for the language.
> >
> > Using an acronym based on the local spoken language will get you
> problems
> > given that there is no guarantee that there is no other local language
> that
> > might call "their" signed language NTS. Given that there are so many
> sign
> > languages recognised by the ISO-639 and given that it is easy enough to
> get
> > more sign languages recognised, I would advise you to exclusively use
> the
> > recognised and unambiguous ISO codes.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >     Gerard
> >
> >
> > On 9/4/07, Sonja Erlenkamp <sonja.erlenkamp at hist.no> wrote:
> > > We have started to use the Norwegian Acronym for Norwegian Sign
> Language
> > (which is NTS) to avoid too many similar acronyms for different signed
> > languages. I have seen this mechanism (to use an acronym based on the
> local
> > spoken language) used for other signed languages. Maybe that would solve
> > your problem too?
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Sonja
> > >
> > > -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> > > Fra: slling-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:
> > slling-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] På vegne av Hope
> > Hurlbut
> > > Sendt: 4. september 2007 06:02
> > > Til: A list for linguists interested in signed languages
> > > Emne: Re: [SLLING-L] Research on Signed/Spoken Language Code switching
> > >
> > > Dear Lorraine,
> > > Which ISL are you referring to?  Is that Israeli SL?  I am working on
> > survey
> > > data from ISL (Indonesian SL).  Maybe I need to change the acronym, if
> you
> > > are using ISL for Israeli SL.
> > > Hope Hurlbut
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lorraine Leeson" <leesonl at gmail.com>
> > > To: "A list for linguists interested in signed languages"
> > > < slling-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [SLLING-L] Research on Signed/Spoken Language Code
> switching
> > >
> > >
> > > > Beppie,
> > > >
> > > > This sounds very interesting. I have a PhD student about to get
> > > > started  examining mouthing in ISL - I wonder if you could forward
> on
> > > > the references for the work that you referred to below?
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Lorraine
> > > >
> > > > On 9/2/07, Beppie van den Bogaerde < beppie.vandenbogaerde at hu.nl>
> wrote:
> > > >> Hi Shane
> > > >>
> > > >> Anne Baker and I, and also Michele Bishop and Karen Emorey and
> > > >> colleagues, have done research on code-blending, that is the
> > combination
> > > >> of sign (language) and spoken (language) elements. There is now
> > > >> information about 2 or 3 hearing children of deaf parents at
> different
> > > >> ages (oldest is 6 years) and about adult hearing codas who work as
> > > >> interpreters...
> > > >>
> > > >> Baker and Van den Bogaerde have two articles in press.... so a
> little
> > > >> patience is in order. One will be in a book by Michele Bishop in
> the
> > > >> Sociolinguistics Series and the other is a publication from
> Benjamins,
> > > >> eds. Plaza-Pust and Morales.
> > > >>
> > > >> mail me if you want more info...;-)
> > > >>
> > > >> All the best
> > > >>
> > > >> Beppie
> > > >>
> > > >> beppie.vandenbogaerde at hu.nl
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >>
> > > >> Van: slling-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu namens
> > Shane Ebert
> > > >> Verzonden: za 1-9-2007 19:28
> > > >> Aan: slling-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> > > >> Onderwerp: [SLLING-L] Research on Signed/Spoken Language Code
> switching
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello.  I was wondering if anyone is familiar with research that
> has
> > > >> been done (or is being done) on code switching/blending/mixing
> > > >> between signed and spoken languages with a theoretical
> approach?  In
> > > >> particular, I am interested in studies focusing on hearing
> children/
> > > >> adults with deaf parents so that the participants are native
> speakers/
> > > >> users of both languages.  Thank you in advance for any leads or
> > > >> suggestions, and I apologize if my question is too broad.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sincerely,
> > > >> Shane Ebert...
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dr. Lorraine Leeson
> > > > Director
> > > > Centre for Deaf Studies
> > > > School of Linguistics, Speech and Communication Sciences
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> Director
> Centre for Deaf Studies
> School of Linguistics, Speech and Communication Sciences
> University of Dublin, Trinity College
> 40 Lower Drumcondra Road
> Drumcondra, Dublin 9
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