Research on Signed/Spoken Language Code switching

Wed Sep 5 02:49:36 UTC 2007

Dear Lorraine,
Well said!
Hope

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lorraine Leeson" <leesonl at gmail.com>
To: "A list for linguists interested in signed languages" 
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Subject: Re: [SLLING-L] Research on Signed/Spoken Language Code switching

> Just as a response - I think that we need to be careful in assuming
> that standarding bodies somehow know best or have the right to
> designate the 'official' name or acronym for a language.
>
> Having worked with the European Union of the Deaf on language
> rcognition issues, I know that this can cause discomfort for Deaf
> communities who feel that the power to name their language is (or
> appears to be) taken out of their hands - there is no problem in real
> terms in having many languages referred to by the same acronyms - sure
> Irish Sign Language and Israeli Sign Language have done so for years!
> When publishing, its normal to introduce the language and acronym that
> is referred to , and consequentially, it does not seem to prove a
> problem. ..and as such, I don't think that Shane's quick fix
> suggestion of changing the acronym associated with the language is
> necessary at all.
>
> Further, there is also the issue of anglocentric approaches to naming
> signed languages here and more and more linguists are opting to use
> both the acronym linked to the local language (e.g. LIU for Jordanian
> Sign Language, VGT for Flemish Sign Language, etc.).
>
> The bottom line is - if its not broken, don't fix it! The current
> approach seems to work well.....or maybe there is disagreement on that
> that I am missing????
>
> Lorraine
>
> On 9/4/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hoi,
>> I am afraid that I do not have a clue why NTS should be exclusively the
>> Norwegian Sign Language. This means that calling it NTS does not resolve
>> when you want to standardise. I had a look and the code for the Norwegian
>> Sign Language is "nsl" as this is the ISO-639-3 code for the language.
>>
>> Using an acronym based on the local spoken language will get you problems
>> given that there is no guarantee that there is no other local language 
>> that
>> might call "their" signed language NTS. Given that there are so many sign
>> languages recognised by the ISO-639 and given that it is easy enough to 
>> get
>> more sign languages recognised, I would advise you to exclusively use the
>> recognised and unambiguous ISO codes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>     Gerard
>>
>>
>> On 9/4/07, Sonja Erlenkamp <sonja.erlenkamp at hist.no> wrote:
>> > We have started to use the Norwegian Acronym for Norwegian Sign 
>> > Language
>> (which is NTS) to avoid too many similar acronyms for different signed
>> languages. I have seen this mechanism (to use an acronym based on the 
>> local
>> spoken language) used for other signed languages. Maybe that would solve
>> your problem too?
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> >
>> > Sonja
>> >
>> > -----Opprinnelig melding-----
>> > Fra: slling-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:
>> slling-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] På vegne av Hope
>> Hurlbut
>> > Sendt: 4. september 2007 06:02
>> > Til: A list for linguists interested in signed languages
>> > Emne: Re: [SLLING-L] Research on Signed/Spoken Language Code switching
>> >
>> > Dear Lorraine,
>> > Which ISL are you referring to?  Is that Israeli SL?  I am working on
>> survey
>> > data from ISL (Indonesian SL).  Maybe I need to change the acronym, if 
>> > you
>> > are using ISL for Israeli SL.
>> > Hope Hurlbut
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Lorraine Leeson" <leesonl at gmail.com>
>> > To: "A list for linguists interested in signed languages"
>> > < slling-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:43 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [SLLING-L] Research on Signed/Spoken Language Code 
>> > switching
>> >
>> >
>> > > Beppie,
>> > >
>> > > This sounds very interesting. I have a PhD student about to get
>> > > started  examining mouthing in ISL - I wonder if you could forward on
>> > > the references for the work that you referred to below?
>> > >
>> > > Many thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Lorraine
>> > >
>> > > On 9/2/07, Beppie van den Bogaerde < beppie.vandenbogaerde at hu.nl> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >> Hi Shane
>> > >>
>> > >> Anne Baker and I, and also Michele Bishop and Karen Emorey and
>> > >> colleagues, have done research on code-blending, that is the
>> combination
>> > >> of sign (language) and spoken (language) elements. There is now
>> > >> information about 2 or 3 hearing children of deaf parents at 
>> > >> different
>> > >> ages (oldest is 6 years) and about adult hearing codas who work as
>> > >> interpreters...
>> > >>
>> > >> Baker and Van den Bogaerde have two articles in press.... so a 
>> > >> little
>> > >> patience is in order. One will be in a book by Michele Bishop in the
>> > >> Sociolinguistics Series and the other is a publication from 
>> > >> Benjamins,
>> > >> eds. Plaza-Pust and Morales.
>> > >>
>> > >> mail me if you want more info...;-)
>> > >>
>> > >> All the best
>> > >>
>> > >> Beppie
>> > >>
>> > >> beppie.vandenbogaerde at hu.nl
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ________________________________
>> > >>
>> > >> Van: slling-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu namens
>> Shane Ebert
>> > >> Verzonden: za 1-9-2007 19:28
>> > >> Aan: slling-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> > >> Onderwerp: [SLLING-L] Research on Signed/Spoken Language Code 
>> > >> switching
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Hello.  I was wondering if anyone is familiar with research that has
>> > >> been done (or is being done) on code switching/blending/mixing
>> > >> between signed and spoken languages with a theoretical approach?  In
>> > >> particular, I am interested in studies focusing on hearing children/
>> > >> adults with deaf parents so that the participants are native 
>> > >> speakers/
>> > >> users of both languages.  Thank you in advance for any leads or
>> > >> suggestions, and I apologize if my question is too broad.
>> > >>
>> > >> Sincerely,
>> > >> Shane Ebert...
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> Centre for Deaf Studies
> School of Linguistics, Speech and Communication Sciences
> University of Dublin, Trinity College
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