SLLING-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 38

[Dan Parvaz]

Hi Mohammad,

Where in Jabal Weibdeh is the school (I used to live near Terra Sancta
school there), and do they use sign language as well?

Mabrook on the PhD.

Cheers,

-Dan.

On 9/26/07, mohammed abushaira <m_abushaira at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Bernadet
>
> I am happy to write to you , I want to Know witch school of deaf you talking about because I worked in Al ammal school for deaf in alquisema (now moved to jabal el wibedah)  and we used sign language
>
> Thanks
>
> Mohammad
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> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:41:23 -0700
> From: Valerie Sutton
> Subject: Re: [SLLING-L] Dissertation Posted, Statistical Studies,
> Saudi Arabia and Jordan
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> On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:18 AM, Bernadet Hendriks wrote:
> > Hi Gerard,
> > I must admist I didn't read through the entire PhD (certainly not
> > because most of it is still in Arabic and it would take me a lot of
> > time trying to read through it), but I skimmed through the English
> > translation. However I know from my experience of 6 years in Jordan
> > working with the Deaf that these al-Amal schools don't normally use
> > sign language...so my remark is more than just speculation. Also,
> > I'm not saying sign writing might not have been useful (I think it
> > could be very useful and I tried myself to teach it to a few Deaf
> > people in Jordan), but I am saying that I doubt these better
> > results stem from the use of sign writing only. If sign writing was
> > used, that means sign language was used, and that in itself may
> > have caused better results in the students. In the school where I
> > worked in Jordan bilingual education was introduced as a test and
> > this caused significantly better results in the reading skills of
> > students...without the use of sign writing.
> > Greetings,
> > Bernadet
>
>
> Hello Bernadet and Gerard -
>
> Your comments are important, Bernadet, because I also wondered about
> the level of Sign Language skills of the students to begin with, so
> this is good that you bring this up. Since you worked in Jordan
> yourself for 6 years, you are coming from a position of knowledge
> that most commentators would not have...and I am happy to know you
> even tried some SignWriting in Jordan with your Deaf friends
> there...smile...
>
> I believe that both control groups were using some kind of signed
> language, and the only difference was that one group used SignWriting
> and the other group did not, however, I will check this with Dr.
> AbuShaira. It is very possible, that they were all orally trained
> Deaf students before the test...that is possible...which would mean
> they all were new to signing...and that is important information to
> know, you are right...
>
> Did you know that Dr. AbuShaira also conducted the same kind of study
> in 2002 at a school in Saudi Arabia?...The results were highly in
> SignWriting's favor and the reaction from the school administrators
> and teachers is what really amazed me...so positive...This 16-page
> report on the Study in Saudi Arabia has been translated in its
> entirety, so no worries about learning to read Arabic:
>
> SignWriting Research Study Saudi Arabia 2002, English Translation
> from Arabic
> http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs5/sw0487-AbuShairaSWStudy2002-
> English.pdf
>
> So now the question is...Was the school in Saudi Arabia also oral to
> begin with? I do not know and I will try to find out...
>
> Obviously we need many more research studies, in multiple cultures,
> and in other circumstances. One or two studies, are not enough, even
> at best...
>
> A similar study on SignWriting was done in Nicaragua with the Deaf
> students in Bluefields, Nicaragua. Those students were definitely not
> orally trained... They only knew their unique sign language......That
> study is on the web, and Dr. AbuShaira points to it in his dissertation:
>
> Literacy In Nicaraguan Sign Language
> Assessing "Written Sign" Recognition Skills
>
> ...Janice Gangel-Vasquez 1997...
> California State University Dominguez Hills
> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/research/rese003.html
>
>
> Thanks again for your comments...
>
> Val ;-)
>
> Valerie Sutton
> Sutton at SignWriting.org
>
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