SW-HamNoSys
Albert Bickford
albert_bickford at SIL.ORG
Tue Jul 3 17:24:29 UTC 2012
I've just been discussing similar issues with Keren Rice with regard to
North Slavey (Dene), a spoken language in Canada. There is a lot of
variation from one speaker to the next, and the community has to a large
extent chosen to reflect those variations in how words are spelled.
Further, they don't want to privilege one spelling as the "right" or
"standard" spelling with the others being variants, but they want to
treat all variants on an equal basis with equal status.
It strikes me that the amount of variation we see in the ASL community
(and probably other sign languages) is comparable to what exists in Dene
and many other spoken language communities I've heard about. From a
linguistic point of view, it would be important to retain variant
spellings, although it would be better if we know where each spelling
came from (whose signing it represented).
There is another type of normalization, however, in which two spellings
are given that represent the pronunciation, since there are often
alternate ways of writing a given sign. This type of variation is only
variation in the writing/spelling process, not in the pronunciation of
the sign. So, I'd personally be more in favor of normalizing that type
of variation than variation that represents actual differences in how
the sign is made.
Ultimately, of course, this is an editorial decision to be made by those
responsible for a corpus, so I don't want to seem to be dictating what
should be done.
Albert Bickford
SIL-Mexico, Linguistic Publications
SIL International, Sign Language Global Team
albert_bickford at sil.org
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On 2012/07/03 8:57 AM, Steve Slevinski wrote:
> On 7/3/12 8:30 AM, Dan Parvaz wrote:
>> It sounds like the user-contributed corpora could use a little
>> "smoothing" in the form of a normalization step (manual, automated,
>> or a bit of
>> each) that standardizes the orthography a bit for purposes of
>> concordance-
>> building, search, etc.
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Very true. I am almost ready to add normalization functions to
> SignPuddle. They will be a combination of manual and automated.
>
> Last year I had a breakthrough with approximate searching for
> SignWriting. Given any sign, the search routines can find all other
> signs that are variant spellings based on position and order. The
> searching uses regular expressions and is very fast.
>
> It will be up to the end user to decide if the signs returned from the
> search routines are meaningful variant that should be left alone or if
> the signs returned are meaningless variants that should be normalized
> to a common spelling.
>
> Regards,
> -Steve
>
>
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