Malta-Scorpion here perspective and handsymbol

[Stefan Woehrmann2]

Hi Charles and listmembers,

I tried to search signs which include the symbol

SSS 08-01 - 003 -01 -01  (top down view on head)

Hopefully in a view months SignBank search will show some of these but that
will take time and sw-virus-infected people to work very hard to establish a
wonderfull databank -

I looked at the ASL dictionary 001 and found this sign for "alone"
It is interesting to me to understand the difference between the meaning of
the two signs - but in addition to that - you can see that we do find here a
spelling routine that follows the principles that are on my mind. Even from
top down the index hand in the second sign is written from front view and
there is no problem to understand this spelling ...
What do you think ?

Enough for today ;-)

Stefan ;-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3 at EROLS.COM>
To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: Malta-Scorpion


> Hi Stephan,
>
> The signs were meant to be the same sign.  For me, if you are looking at
the
> top of the head, the hand is half/half because that's what you see from
> above, half/half.
>
> The Pharaoh sign is interesting.
>
> Charles
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stefan Woehrmann2 <stefanwoehrmann at HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Malta-Scorpion
>
>
> > Hi Charles and listmembers,
> >
> > looking at your message and at the attached gifs of "Pharaoh"  in ASL
> (???)
> > I realized a difference in my understanding of reading and writing from
> > different perspectives -
> >
> > it is true that my deaf students (9th grade) prefer spellings that are
not
> > split in different perspectives - and I agree that as often as possible
I
> > should try to stick to one perspective (top down or front-view, or side-
> > view) -
> >
> > but on the other hand - there is sometimes a need to read and write the
> > single symbols that are combined to a whole sign are written from
> different
> > perspectives .
> >
> > I don  ^ »    feel confused if this happens and there is almost none risk
to
> > misunderstand the symbol !
> >
> > Your attached pharao shows two different signs - correct ?
> > One sign back of hand towards the signer - the other one - back of hand
to
> > the right ! (while the head is shown in top down the right hand is
written
> > from front- view. )
> >
> >
> > Attached is the German sign for "Pharaoh"  for those who are interested
in
> > comparing signs of different SL
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Stefan ;-)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3 at EROLS.COM>
> > To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Malta-Scorpion
> >
> >
> > > Whenever I change perspective, I look at the hand from that
perspective.
> > > Since I'm looking down from the top, the hand must be half and half
> rather
> > > than all black as I am seeing the edge of the hand rather than the
back
> of
> > > the hand.
> > >
> > > This is the only way I know of to show the "back top" of the head as
> > opposed
> > > to the front top of the head, like one of the signs I have seen for
> > > "Pharaoh" with a serpent brushing up from the forehead.  (two signs
> > > attached)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Charles Butler <chazzer3 at EROLS.COM>
> > > To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Malta-Scorpion
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here's my take on it.  If the back is at the bottom looking at the
top
> > of
> > > > the head, this should be accurate for "scorpion"
> > > >
> > > > Charles Butler
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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