SignWriter and XP.

Sat Jun 1 10:00:30 UTC 2002

Hallo Ilka,

ganz herzlich willkommen im Club!

Ich habe mich sehr gefreut, deine Anfragen und Anregungen zu lesen. SW ist
gef Ê¬ rlich - einmal davon angesteckt, l Êü ft man Gefahr, vor lauter Arbeit,
Forschungsdrang und Interesse an der eigenen Textproduktion die Welt um sich
zu vergessen-

Ich versuchte den Hamburger Studenten zu vermitteln, dass ich die
Geb Ê° denSchrift in der Schule f ^?^?  ein au FÞ rordentlich wichtiges Werkzeug
halte. Die bisherigen Pionierarbeiten erleichtern allen Neueinsteigern die
Arbeit ganz wesentlich.

Ich freue mich auf anregende Beitr Ê^Ý e und vor allen Dingen Diskussionen zum
Lesen und Schreiben der Geb Ê° denSchrift !

Ganz herzliche Gr ^?^? e

Stefan ;-))

PS Leider bleibt es dabei, dass SW4.4 unter XP nicht l Êü ft. Ich lasse mich
davon aber nicht beirren und werde einen 2. Computer f ^?^?  das
Geb Ê° denSchrift - Programm beahlten. Die dann produzierten Graphiken und
PDF - Dateien k ô? nen dann wieder problemlos unter XP  weiterbenutzt werden.
;-)))

----- Original Message -----

From: "Ilka Sch Ê^Ø ke" <ilka at SCHAEFKE.NET>
To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:44 AM
Subject: SignWriter and XP.

Dear Jerry, Stuart, Val and list,
it is just as Stuart and Jerry described, no key combination tried so far
ist working...  I ±_ l try Jerry ±±  idea, though, maybe my computer lets
himself be tricked into cooperation! Stuart, if XP does act differently
because of the operating system layer between hard- and software, why is my
other DOS-program (another linguistic program called COPROF, but since it is
from Germany you probably don ±²  know it) running?
As for my dissertation, i ±>  right now trying to analyse 720 Texts from deaf,
hard-of-hearing and hearing students in 3rd, 6th and 9th grade to compare
their writing style. We are still a bit backwards in Germany so that no one
really paid much attention to how these students write. I am still searching
for a good idea how to compare the contents, though, because i can see that
there are a couple of texts that are just ingenious, but the formal usage of
German is still pretty bad. Does anyone have an idea how to compare 700
texts contentwise?

Bye, Ilka
_____________________________
Ilka Sch Ê^Ø ke
Weidestra FÞ  25
22083 Hamburg
Tel.: (040) 567808
Fax.: (069) 79 12 24 777

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart Thiessen" <smt_sw at HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: For Ilka in Germany...

> Maybe I am misunderstanding Ilka, but it seems maybe she is able to open
> another DOS program but is wondering why SignWriter won't work.
>
> If that is the case, I may have an idea why.  I think the SignWriter
program
> is designed to write directly to the video card to display the signs
faster.
> In the DOS days, writing directly to the hardware was better for speed
than
> to depend on your programming language's video routines.  However, since
> Windows NT, Microsoft has put a operating system layer between the
hardware
> and any programs.  That prevents the kind of behavior that DOS used to
> allow. So, the point of all this simply is this: If XP prevents DOS
programs
> (or any program from accessing the hardware (video or otherwise)), then
> SignWriter probably won't work on those machines.  That is my guess.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Stuart
> --------------------------------------------
> Stuart Thiessen
> Des Moines, IA
> --------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> Wrom: PBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHYUCDD
> To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
> Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2002 20:32
> Subject: For Ilka in Germany...
>
>
> SignWriting List
> May 30, 2002
>
> >Ilka Sch  ^Ö"  ke from Hamburg, Germany:
> >I downloaded the programm, but it refuses to do anything while open
> >and i can  ^È·   get it to close again, either. I do have another
> >programm running dos-based, though, so i wonder what the problem
> >might be. Is there anyone with a hint what i could try next?
>
>
> Hello Everyone, and Ilka -
> I thought about your message, Ilke, and I wonder.... You were able to
> open the SignWriter program, while in Windows XP, and the program was
> there on the screen, looking ok? If that is the case, this means that
> Windows XP can open SignWriter...and perhaps it is not XP that is the
> issue at all...
>
> Since SignWriter DOS does not use a mouse, you have to use your
> keyboard to move around....Combine the Alt Key with the first letter
> of the command-word. For example, in the English version, Alt-O is
> "Open a File". Alt-Q is "Quit SignWriter".
>
> So in your German version, you use the Alt key plus the first letter
> of the German words...You will find the words at the bottom of your
> screen. You should be able to leave the program that way.
>
> There are also instruction documents on the web:
>
> SignWriter DOS Instruction
> http://signwriting.org/forums/software/sw44/sw44less/download.html
>
> If you do get SignWriter to work with Windows XP, please tell us!
> --
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
> ___________________________
>
> Valerie Sutton
> Sutton at SignWriting.org
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