Malta-Scorpion

[Stefan Woehrmann2]

Hi Charles and swl members,

well - obviously we read and write signs differently ! I would not be able
to understand the two signs as describing the same movement - brushing the
right curved - index middle fingers hand - (ha Valerie - still not able to
use your wonderfull SSS to refer exactly to any symbol - ok. sigh - I will
look it up in the SignBank - SSS - folder - just a minute -

ok it is symbol  : 01 02 004 01 03   ;-))  see attached gif

Your description and the first front-view written sign is no problem. I can
understand and sign "pharaoh - once again - ASL - sign ?? )

see next message for the next gif

Stefan ;-)






----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3 at EROLS.COM>
To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: Malta-Scorpion


> Hi Stephan,
>
> The signs were meant to be the same sign.  For me, if you are looking at
the
> top of the head, the hand is half/half because that's what you see from
> above, half/half.
>
> The Pharaoh sign is interesting.
>
> Charles
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stefan Woehrmann2 <stefanwoehrmann at HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Malta-Scorpion
>
>
> > Hi Charles and listmembers,
> >
> > looking at your message and at the attached gifs of "Pharaoh"  in ASL
> (???)
> > I realized a difference in my understanding of reading and writing from
> > different perspectives -
> >
> > it is true that my deaf students (9th grade) prefer spellings that are
not
> > split in different perspectives - and I agree that as often as possible
I
> > should try to stick to one perspective (top down or front-view, or side-
> > view) -
> >
> > but on the other hand - there is sometimes a need to read and write the
> > single symbols that are combined to a whole sign are written from
> different
> > perspectives .
> >
> > I don  ^ »    feel confused if this happens and there is almost none risk
to
> > misunderstand the symbol !
> >
> > Your attached pharao shows two different signs - correct ?
> > One sign back of hand towards the signer - the other one - back of hand
to
> > the right ! (while the head is shown in top down the right hand is
written
> > from front- view. )
> >
> >
> > Attached is the German sign for "Pharaoh"  for those who are interested
in
> > comparing signs of different SL
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Stefan ;-)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3 at EROLS.COM>
> > To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Malta-Scorpion
> >
> >
> > > Whenever I change perspective, I look at the hand from that
perspective.
> > > Since I'm looking down from the top, the hand must be half and half
> rather
> > > than all black as I am seeing the edge of the hand rather than the
back
> of
> > > the hand.
> > >
> > > This is the only way I know of to show the "back top" of the head as
> > opposed
> > > to the front top of the head, like one of the signs I have seen for
> > > "Pharaoh" with a serpent brushing up from the forehead.  (two signs
> > > attached)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Charles Butler <chazzer3 at EROLS.COM>
> > > To: <SW-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Malta-Scorpion
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here's my take on it.  If the back is at the bottom looking at the
top
> > of
> > > > the head, this should be accurate for "scorpion"
> > > >
> > > > Charles Butler
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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