New Posting: Official SSS for SignBank 2002

Valerie Sutton Sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Fri Sep 13 20:04:58 UTC 2002

SignWriting List
September 13, 2002

Hello Everyone and Charles...
Thanks for this message, Charles, and for your questions below. The
SSS List is not just for Expressive writing, but Receptive too...It
is a neutral or generic list of possible symbols...and is
non-language specific. So it doesn't teach how to apply them. It is a
list to help the computer place signs in Sequence...

Some of the symbol positions are impossible to excute in Expressive,
but that does not mean they are not used somewhere in the writing

And regarding the half split symbols from years gone by...I still use
them too...I hope someday to teach people about that. But no matter
what, the symbols themselves are mostly there, in the SSS-2002. Some
of the older symbols are not there - That is why I plan to come out
with a larger SSS in 2004.

At least the SSS-2002 helps us get started with publishing
dictionaries by SSS...

Val ;-)


>1) Is there a way to show the difference between the
>clockwise right index finger position 3 and the
>anticlockwise right index finger position 7 without a
>wrist?  The pinky is on the same side of the hand in
>both which would put the index finger on the bottom of
>the screen.  Though the clockwise 7 is less easy to
>perform (it certainly appears in classic oriental
>dances), I was just wondering how to show it.
>2) Is there a preferred way to show the horizontal
>right (or left) hand pointed sideways across the body
>palm up?  Since I'm an old timer, I tend to show it
>with a half/half hand to show the "side" view, whereas
>others show it with the "palm up" view.  For the ASL
>sign "welcome" for example, the wrist turns from a
>palm down to a palm up position, which, for me, would
>essentially reverse the half/half split.  For others,
>this would change the palm from black to white.  Is
>there a "preferred spelling" from the archives?  I'm
>trying to make a judgment call on spellings for Libras
>so that all of us are using the same palm facing
>position for ordering, example being "homem" which is
>similar to one ASL sign for "Jew" with the open angle
>hand stroking a beard.  I don't have the software on
>this computer, so I'm having to use descriptives,
>which  just shows how awkward a "verbal" description
>--- Valerie Sutton <Sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:
>>  SignWriting List
>>  Sept. 5, 2002
>>  Hello Everyone and Charles!
>>  When you start using SignBank, you will see that all
>>  rotations are
>>  there and always will be.
>>  In the SSS listing on the web, I listed the first
>>  flop-rotation of
>>  every symbol in SignBank.  The first position out of
>>  the 96 rotations
>>  is "Flop-01 and Rotation 01". Take a look at the
>>  attached diagram...I
>>  circled it in red.
>>  Some symbols, like the C hand, actually look better
>>  if they are
>>  listed in the Flop01-Rotation03 position, while
>>  others, like the
>>  Index Finger, look better in the Flop01-Rotation01
>>  position. I am
>>  aware of that...In the past I took the trouble of
>>  going in and
>>  changing some of the handshapes to Rotation 03 just
>>  for listing
>>  purposes...This took a lot of time. So in time I can
>>  go back to do
>>  that. Meanwhile, at least you have all the new
>>  numbers for SSS-2002.
>>  Val ;-)
>>  ATTACHMENT part 2 image/gif name=SSS-Listing.gif;
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