3-D Symbols

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
May 13, 2004

Hello Everyone, and Charles!
Thanks for this question. I will be happy to mark a place for them in 
the numbering system. Yes, they belong under 3-D Symbols and it is easy 
to give them a spot. But I have around 5000 symbols to add still, just 
for the basic handshapes and movement symbols and not even talking 
about the 3-D symbols - they haven't been entered yet at all...I have 
simply marked a spot for them...At this point I am pretty tired, and I 
don't know what to do...There are so many symbols to enter that we are 
going to have to be realistic about it...the 3-D symbols will have to 
come after all the needed handshapes...I believe I am going to have to 
release an IMWA version 1.0, and then later, create a 2.0 with more 
symbols. So the 3-D symbols, whether they be the ones used in 
DanceWriting, or yours, used in SignWriting, will have to wait for 
version 2.0....

If you think about it, just the straight index finger alone, could have 
around 20 possible base rootshapes...the index on an E hand, the index 
on an E hand that only touches the thumb with the middle finger, and so 
forth...and each one of those has 96 rotations and flops...so it is 
rediculous, actually! ;-)

Val ;-)

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On May 13, 2004, at 1:46 PM, Charles Butler wrote:

> RE: 3-D Symbols
>  
> Curious, is my suggestion of a slanted circle (45 degrees as opposed 
> to the 90 degree circle) available in this version for a quick writing 
> of boat, house, and all the others that require 45 degrees without 
> having to create 96 3/4-hand shapes?  It would fit here under 3-D 
> symbols like the "underneath" half circle as a category by itself.
>  
> Charles
>
> Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:
> SignWriting List
> May 13, 2004
>
> The 3-D Symbols today are even more sophisticated. They will be
> available in the International Movement Writing Alphabet (the IMWA).
> The IMWA has eight symbol categories:
>
> Category 01 - Hand
> Category 02 - Movement
> Category 03 - Face
> Category 04 - Head
> Category 05 - UpperBody
> Category 06 - FullBody
> Category 07 - Space
> Category 08 - Punctuation
>
> Category 07, Space, includes symbols that show spatial
> relationships...such as Height, Width, Depth...and also 3D Symbols. In
> the early history of SignWriting, we used the 3D symbols for the upper
> body only, but then, over time, they were dropped because that kind of
> detail is really for research use...for daily use, we write the third
> dimension in other ways...
>
> Here is an explanation of the 3D Symbols from our DanceWriting web 
> site:
>
>
>
> > ATTACHMENT part 2 image/gif x-mac-type=47494666; x-unix-mode=0644; 
> x-mac-creator=3842494D; name=3DSymbols.gif