[sw-l] WoordenBoek and Sign Puddle coordination...a question...

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Wed Oct 13 21:10:02 UTC 2004


Some observations.  I hope these are understood as queries.

 Argentinie.  The handshape is turned for the movement shown.  Am I misreading this Valerie?  I think the square angle hand should be mirrored and rotated clockwise 90 degrees to show not only palm toward the reader but up and to the side.

Aangenaam.  The hands as shown in the video actually split and move outward in opposite curves as they move upward.

 Aalst.  The hand moves toward the head in the video and ENDS at a touch.  Should not the asterisk be at the point end of the arrow?

I'm glad the videos are included in the dictionary so we can discuss what is signed and compare it to the SW shown.

Charles Butler


Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
SignWriting List
October 13, 2004

Yes. The conversion of the DOS dictionaries into graphics, would be a
useful tool because some of the dictionaries, like Stefan Woehrmann's
10,000 sign dictionary, are so large, that without a conversion tool it
would be impossible to re-type quickly...With such a conversion, they
could become both WoordenBoek and Sign Puddle dictionaries that could
later be redone in SignMaker...My jumbled thoughts for today...

So I guess it depends on whether we can use WoordenBoek to do such
conversions...I will write to ask them...

My thanks to everyone for making this List so enjoyable and for making
SignWriting a useful tool...Without you, we would be nowhere!

Val ;-)

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Stephen Slevinski wrote:
> If the Flemish dictionary can dump image files, we could have a Sign
> Puddle dictionary right now.
> Otherwise, we are using different symbol sets (sss-1999 vs 222-2004)
> and conversion is a problem.
>
> -Stephen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Valerie
> Sutton
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:25 PM
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Cc: Braem Bart; Aerts Steven; Slevinski Stephen
> Subject: [sw-l] WoordenBoek and Sign Puddle coordination...a
> question...
>
> SignWriting List
> October 13, 2004
>
> Kathleen Heylen wrote:
>
> thank you very much! I will show it to my pupils :o)
> I'm not planning on filling this dictionary because there is a Flemish
> Sign Language dictionary availible on the internet:
> http://ugent.gebaren.be
> But i doubt if it is in English too. But i will try to motivate my
> students to participate in this dictionary building ;o) Greetz
> Kathleen
>
>
> Hello Everyone, Kathleen and Stephen!
> Thank you, for the idea of a new Sign Puddle for Flemish Sign
> Language...That would give the Deaf students some new features, like
> adding their own signs to the web dictionary, and sending email
> written in Flemish Sign Language....
>
> The Flemish Sign Language students are doubly lucky, because they also
> have their own WoordenBoek program on the web, developed by Flemish
> programmers Steven Aerts and Bart Braem...You can read about the
> Flemish dictionary on these web pages..
>
> WoordenBoek
> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/archive/softarc09.html
>
> WoordenBoek
> http://gebaren.ugent.be/
>
> WoordenBoek
> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/lisbon/lisbon07.html
>
> They have over 6000 Flemish signs on the web, and can automatically
> convert SignWriter DOS dictionaries (.dic and .din files)...and there
> is a second dictionary for ASL with 3000 signs on the web...plus they
> can search by handshape and contact symbols...
>
> So here is my question to the programmers....since WoordenBoek and
> SignPuddle both are using a form of SWML, and since Woordenboek can
> convert SignWriter DOS dictionaries, could SignPuddle then read the
> WoordenBoek sign-entries, bringing the signs into a SignPuddle
> dictionary, which indirectly would be a way to convert SignWriter DOS
> dictionaries to SignPuddle? smile....ha!
>
> Val ;-)
>
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