[sw-l] I'm back online!

Fri Oct 1 20:20:28 UTC 2004

SignWriting List
October 1, 2004

Dear Stephen, Adam and Everyone...
The definitions that Adam typed in SignWriter DOS include facial
expressions that are important to the signs...I received the .sgn files
from Adam, and then I opened them in SignWriter Java to convert them to
better looking graphics, and then I took screen captures and reduced
them in Photoshop and then placed them as graphics in SignBank...

Glosses are impossible, unless you have a way to drag a facial
expression over the signs at different times...but no...that is bad for
language...

The definitions need either SignMaker, where you can create whole
sentences in SignWriting, including all facial expressions, OR...a
typewriter for SignWriting, such as SignWriter  or Movement Writer...so
that facial expressions and complete punctuation can be a part of the
definitions...

So Adam, for now, let's continue doing the definitions for SignBank the
way we have been doing them...There is no rush on this for
SignPuddle... smile

Val ;-)

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On Oct 1, 2004, at 9:53 AM, Stephen Slevinski wrote:

> Hi Adam,
>
> Nice to have you back.
>
> About definitions with Sign Puddle...
>
> I can do this three ways: image, gloss, or SWML-S.  I don't like the
> image
> option.  Sign Puddle started that way and it has caused a lot of
> problems.
> I originally started with gloss definitions.  This type of definition
> is
> limited by the dictionary.  I could switch to SWML-S, but no
> applications
> generate SWML-S yet.
>
> I am leaning towards SWML-S.  I can update the translation feature to
> output
> SWML-S, but only for signs that have been entered with the improved
> SignMaker.  So definitions can be generated from gloss.  But in time,
> other
> applications will be able to create SWML-S so the definitions can be
> written
> directly without using gloss.
>
> -Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Adam Frost
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:09 PM
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: [sw-l] I'm back online!
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am glad to be able to be back online! I know that most of you didn't
> know,
> but I have just moved to a new place at a last minutes notice. Things
> have
> settled down with the move and starting school. :-D
>
> I must say that the list never ceases to amaze me. There have been
> several
> great discussion. I would have loved to have been involved in them
> when they
> were going on -- but as Val just said, "Such is Life."
>
> The SignPuddle is really coming along. Stephen, you are sssoooo
> resourceful!! A while back it was mentioned about Editors for
> Dictionaries
> in SignPuddle. I wouldn't mind being one for the ASL dictionary. (I
> know
> that it is still early, but just thinking out loud.) And speaking of
> thinking out loud, will the dictionaries have a place for definitions
> like
> that that I have been doing for SignBank? You don't have to get it done
> ASAP. I understand that you have A LOT of programming to do right now.
> (I
> speak from a little of experience of doing a little programing myself.)
>
> Just wanted to put in a little bit of my two cents, and say that I am
> glad
> to be back! :-D Thanks, list members, for all that you do, which is A
> LOT!
>
> Adam
>
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