[sw-l] SignPuddle

Tue Oct 12 16:19:03 UTC 2004

SignWriting List
October 12, 2004

Dear SW List, and Stephen!
Please forgive my silence on the List lately...I have so much happening
there are times when I feel sad that I cannot follow all the details on
your wonderful programming...

So I am writing to request...Can you summarize what you all decided in
one email message for me, posted to the List? As you know, although I
do web design regularly, the truth is, I am not a person who writes
html code. I use DreamWeaver, which is software that is made for web
designers like me, who thing visually!! smile...We are so spoiled, that
most of the time we never even see the html code that lies behind the
visual design...

But you all have been discussing how to build signs from SignMaker
inside your html or php code? Is that right? How would a visual person
like me do this in DreamWeaver when I am designing a web page?
smile....

Val ;-)

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On Oct 10, 2004, at 6:27 PM, Adam wrote:

> PERFECT! Thanks. And I will do the ALT.
> A question. You said that there was a way that the build information
> can
> be loaded and created. Can you explain exactly how this is done? I can
> figure it out.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Slevinski
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:08 PM
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: RE: [sw-l] SignPuddle
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> If this works for you, great.  One comment, use ALT with images.  <img
> src="build_URL" alt="gloss">  Using ALT is expected for image files.
> It
> will also help with long texts that might otherwise become confusing.
>
> Below is a lot of detailed information.  Might be too much, but if
> you're
> interested...
>
> The build format contains all of the information needed to build a
> sign.
> Every sign that is entered into the dictionary with SignMaker
> (javascript)
> has a BLD file that contains this information.  These signs can be
> loaded
> into SignMaker using the Dictionary Editors page.
>
> Example:
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/dict/sl/8-oclock.png
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/dict/sl/8-oclock.bld
>
> If you have the build information for a sign, you can load that
> information
> into signmaker.  Here is how you could edit the sign you posted below.
>
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/create.php?build=01-05-011
> -01-
> 01-0
> 1,8,24,03-01-001-01-01-01,5,0,02-05-001-01-01-01,27,36,08-04-006-01
> -01-0
> 1,4,
> 64,08-01-001-01-01-01,24,16,
>
> So if you choose to do your SignWriting this way, know that you can
> still
> edit your signs.
>
> I will be updating the image.php script to include head centering for
> verticle writing.  I'll let you know when that is available.
>
> Using the build information is similar to using SWML, but without all
> the
> extra syntax.  Here's what I mean...
>
> Your build info is:
> 01-05-011-01-01-01,8,24,03-01-001-01-01-01,5,0,02-05-001-01-01
> -01,27,36,
> 08-0
> 4-006-01-01-01,4,64,08-01-001-01-01-01,24,16,
>
> Compare this to the SWML-S version...
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>
>   <swml version="s-1.0" language="asl" tranlation="english">
>     <sign gloss="good?">
>       <symbol x="8" y="24">01-05-011-01-01-01</symbol>
>       <symbol x="5" y="0">03-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
>       <symbol x="27" y="36">02-05-001-01-01-01</symbol>
>       <symbol x="4" y="64">08-04-006-01-01-01</symbol>
>       <symbol x="24" y="16">08-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
>     </sign>
>   </swml>
>
> You can verify this by using the SWML-S output page:
> http://www.oculog.net/swml/dump.php
>
> If you like to use SignMaker, I can try and make an offline version
> that
> accepts and output the build format for signs.  This will require
> downloading the IMWA.
>
> I know this is not a perfect solution, or one that everyone will want,
> but
> if it works for you, that's great.
>
> -Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Adam
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:54 PM
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: RE: [sw-l] SignPuddle
>
>
> Stephen,
>
> I have tried to do that, but I just can't seem to get the signs to
> format the way that I would like. There is something that I did find
> that just might work for me. I think that you have it called 'build.'
> This would make it so that I can use the symbols that I want and put
> them were I want them. If it is alright, this seems that it would be
> the
> best thing to use. (However, at the moment, the build takes a while for
> me to generate because I am so unfamiliar with how the numbers fit. I
> have been using the code in the address off the SignMaker just before
> you would add it too the dictionary.) Is it alright to do it this way?
> I
> have put in the code for the sign for "Good?" to show what I am talking
> about. Is this ok to do?
>
> <img
> src='http://signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/image.php?build=01-05-011
> -01-
> 01-01,8,24,03-01-001-01-01-01,5,0,02-05-001-01-01-01,27,36,08-04-006
> -01-
> 01-01,4,64,08-01-001-01-01-01,24,16,'>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>