[sw-l] SignPuddle

Tue Oct 12 18:52:52 UTC 2004

That's ok, Val. You're forgiven. :-P I feel the same way sometimes.

To tell you the true, most of my web designing is done a lot of the same way
that you mentioned. True, I know some basic HTML coding, but not enough to
make a good strong page.  Currently what I am doing is I am making a link to
Stephen's image.php?build as an image to create the signs that I want on my
page. I don't know if your image creator in you web designing will allow you
to link to an image on another page (I know that most don't), but mine does
and that is what I am using.  That sums up what I am doing.

Smile
Adam

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignPuddle
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:19:03 -0700

SignWriting List
October 12, 2004

Dear SW List, and Stephen!
Please forgive my silence on the List lately...I have so much happening
there are times when I feel sad that I cannot follow all the details on
your wonderful programming...

So I am writing to request...Can you summarize what you all decided in  one
email message for me, posted to the List? As you know, although I  do web
design regularly, the truth is, I am not a person who writes  html code. I
use DreamWeaver, which is software that is made for web  designers like me,
who thing visually!! smile...We are so spoiled, that  most of the time we
never even see the html code that lies behind the  visual design...

But you all have been discussing how to build signs from SignMaker  inside
your html or php code? Is that right? How would a visual person  like me do
this in DreamWeaver when I am designing a web page?  smile....

Val ;-)

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On Oct 10, 2004, at 6:27 PM, Adam wrote:

>PERFECT! Thanks. And I will do the ALT.
>A question. You said that there was a way that the build information
>  can
>be loaded and created. Can you explain exactly how this is done? I
>can
>figure it out.
>
>Adam
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen
>Slevinski
>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:08 PM
>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: RE: [sw-l] SignPuddle
>
>Hi Adam,
>
>If this works for you, great.  One comment, use ALT with images.
><img
>src="build_URL" alt="gloss">  Using ALT is
expected for image files.
>   It
>will also help with long texts that might otherwise become
>confusing.
>
>Below is a lot of detailed information.  Might be too much, but if
>you're
>interested...
>
>The build format contains all of the information needed to build a
>sign.
>Every sign that is entered into the dictionary with SignMaker
>(javascript)
>has a BLD file that contains this information.  These signs can be
>loaded
>into SignMaker using the Dictionary Editors page.
>
>Example:
>http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/dict/sl/8-oclock.png
>http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/dict/sl/8-oclock.bld
>
>If you have the build information for a sign, you can load that
>information
>into signmaker.  Here is how you could edit the sign you posted
>below.
>
>http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/create.php?build=01-05-011
>-01-
>01-0
>1,8,24,03-01-001-01-01-01,5,0,02-05-001-01-01-01,27,36,08-04-006-01
>-01-0
>1,4,
>64,08-01-001-01-01-01,24,16,
>
>So if you choose to do your SignWriting this way, know that you can
>still
>edit your signs.
>
>I will be updating the image.php script to include head centering
>for
>verticle writing.  I'll let you know when that is available.
>
>Using the build information is similar to using SWML, but without
>all
>the
>extra syntax.  Here's what I mean...
>
>Your build info is:
>01-05-011-01-01-01,8,24,03-01-001-01-01-01,5,0,02-05-001-01-01
>-01,27,36,
>08-0
>4-006-01-01-01,4,64,08-01-001-01-01-01,24,16,
>
>Compare this to the SWML-S version...
><?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>
>   <swml version="s-1.0" language="asl"
tranlation="english">
>     <sign gloss="good?">
>       <symbol x="8"
y="24">01-05-011-01-01-01</symbol>
>       <symbol x="5"
y="0">03-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
>       <symbol x="27"
y="36">02-05-001-01-01-01</symbol>
>       <symbol x="4"
y="64">08-04-006-01-01-01</symbol>
>       <symbol x="24"
y="16">08-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
>     </sign>
>   </swml>
>
>You can verify this by using the SWML-S output page:
>http://www.oculog.net/swml/dump.php
>
>If you like to use SignMaker, I can try and make an offline version
>that
>accepts and output the build format for signs.  This will require
>downloading the IMWA.
>
>I know this is not a perfect solution, or one that everyone will
>want,
>but
>if it works for you, that's great.
>
>-Stephen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Adam
>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:54 PM
>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: RE: [sw-l] SignPuddle
>
>
>Stephen,
>
>I have tried to do that, but I just can't seem to get the signs to
>format the way that I would like. There is something that I did find
>that just might work for me. I think that you have it called
>'build.'
>This would make it so that I can use the symbols that I want and put
>them were I want them. If it is alright, this seems that it would be
>  the
>best thing to use. (However, at the moment, the build takes a while
>for
>me to generate because I am so unfamiliar with how the numbers fit.
>I
>have been using the code in the address off the SignMaker just
>before
>you would add it too the dictionary.) Is it alright to do it this
>way?  I
>have put in the code for the sign for "Good?" to show what I
am
>talking
>about. Is this ok to do?
>
><img
>src='http://signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/image.php?build=01-05-011
>-01-
>01-01,8,24,03-01-001-01-01-01,5,0,02-05-001-01-01-01,27,36,08-04-006
>-01-
>01-01,4,64,08-01-001-01-01-01,24,16,'>
>
>Adam
>
>
>
>