[sw-l] SWML questions and comments

[Stephen Slevinski]

Hi Signuno,

Thanks for the questions and comments.  Good ideas.

I am updating SignMaker so that it can create SWML/S.  I will update SWML/S
to version 1.1 to include your suggestions (and for verticle writing in
lanes).  I am also updating image.php so that it will center the head for
verticle writing.

-Stephen



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Signuno
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 6:24 AM
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: [sw-l] SWML questions and comments


Dear signwriting list (and blind cc to w3
international),

Earlier I explained about how
http://www.geocities.com/signuno/signoskriben.js
converts simple HTML with glosses into SW images.

Now I just wrote
http://www.geocities.com/signuno/signoskriben.xml
which is XSLT to convert SWML(-S?) into SW images.
It's my first ever XSLT :-)

So I wrote a simple SWML(-S?) page at
http://www.geocities.com/signuno/swml_kontrolo.xml
and when I surf to it with a very modern good browser
(Explorer for example) it displays fine!


Okay, some questions and comments.  What's the
difference between SWML and SWML-S, and why the funny
version S-1.0 instead of 1.0?  Is the DTD at
http://swml.ucpel.tche.br/ the most recent?

Using encoding="ISO-8859-1" is deprecated style,
encoding="UTF-8" is to be recommended.

> > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>
> >   <swml version="s-1.0" language="asl"
> tranlation="english">

language="asl" - should that be lang="SGN-US", or
signlang="SGN-US", or maybe xml:lang="SGN-US"?
Language is like javascript, lang is human language I
think.  I guess we've decided on the Everson codes
(I'm still waiting on a reply about SGN-EO versus
SGN-epo versus SGN-signuno).

What's translation="english" - is that the language of
the glosses - should it be translation="en-US", or
maybe glosslang="en-US"?  The signs could be ASL, and
the glosses French, yes?

<sign gloss="good?"> is okay for English, but if the
gloss is in Japanese with RUBY or Arabic with BIDI,
the SWML will be broken.  You need:
<sign><gloss>good?</gloss>

You should also allow the glosses to be multilingual:
<sign><gloss xml:lang="en">good?</gloss><gloss
xml:lang="fr">bon?</gloss><gloss
xml:lang="eo">bona?</gloss>

Thanks for listening to my ideas,
"Signuno".



> >     <sign gloss="good?">
> >       <symbol x="8"
> y="24">01-05-011-01-01-01</symbol>
> >       <symbol x="5"
> y="0">03-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
> >       <symbol x="27"
> y="36">02-05-001-01-01-01</symbol>
> >       <symbol x="4"
> y="64">08-04-006-01-01-01</symbol>
> >       <symbol x="24"
> y="16">08-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
> >     </sign>
> >   </swml>

See also
http://w3.org/International/
http://signwriting.org/
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/sw-l.html
http://www.evertype.com/standards/iso639/iana-lang-assignments.html






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