[sw-l] SWML questions and comments

Stuart Thiessen sw at PASSITONSERVICES.ORG
Wed Oct 13 15:33:00 UTC 2004


Hi! A few comments on your information there. I'm using Mac OS X Safari 
browser 1.2.3 (v125.9).

I tried signoskriben.xml, but it only came up with

http://signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/image.php?build=,,,.

I also tried swml_kontrolo.xml, but only came up with

01-01-001-01-02-05  02-03-002-01-01-05   01-01-007-01-03-09  
02-02-001-01-02-01  01-01-007-01-03-01  02-02-001-01-02-01   
08-04-001-01-01-01

I tested the same thing on Firefox 0.9.2 and got these results:

signoskriben.xml showed the contents of the xml file with the caption: 
"This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated 
with it. The document tree is shown below."

swml_kontrolo.xml came up with the symbols with the gloss underneath, 
each sign and gloss separated by a horizontal rule.

Explorer 6.0.2800.1106IC came up with basically the same thing but 
signoskriben.xml had some formatting of the xml file itself.

I assume signoskriben.xml is only used in conjunction with 
swml_kontrolo.xml to do the conversion?

Thanks,

Stuart

On Oct 13, 2004, at 5:24, Signuno wrote:

> Dear signwriting list (and blind cc to w3
> international),
>
> Earlier I explained about how
> http://www.geocities.com/signuno/signoskriben.js
> converts simple HTML with glosses into SW images.
>
> Now I just wrote
> http://www.geocities.com/signuno/signoskriben.xml
> which is XSLT to convert SWML(-S?) into SW images.
> It's my first ever XSLT :-)
>
> So I wrote a simple SWML(-S?) page at
> http://www.geocities.com/signuno/swml_kontrolo.xml
> and when I surf to it with a very modern good browser
> (Explorer for example) it displays fine!
>
>
> Okay, some questions and comments.  What's the
> difference between SWML and SWML-S, and why the funny
> version S-1.0 instead of 1.0?  Is the DTD at
> http://swml.ucpel.tche.br/ the most recent?
>
> Using encoding="ISO-8859-1" is deprecated style,
> encoding="UTF-8" is to be recommended.
>
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>
>>>   <swml version="s-1.0" language="asl"
>> tranlation="english">
>
> language="asl" - should that be lang="SGN-US", or
> signlang="SGN-US", or maybe xml:lang="SGN-US"?
> Language is like javascript, lang is human language I
> think.  I guess we've decided on the Everson codes
> (I'm still waiting on a reply about SGN-EO versus
> SGN-epo versus SGN-signuno).
>
> What's translation="english" - is that the language of
> the glosses - should it be translation="en-US", or
> maybe glosslang="en-US"?  The signs could be ASL, and
> the glosses French, yes?
>
> <sign gloss="good?"> is okay for English, but if the
> gloss is in Japanese with RUBY or Arabic with BIDI,
> the SWML will be broken.  You need:
> <sign><gloss>good?</gloss>
>
> You should also allow the glosses to be multilingual:
> <sign><gloss xml:lang="en">good?</gloss><gloss
> xml:lang="fr">bon?</gloss><gloss
> xml:lang="eo">bona?</gloss>
>
> Thanks for listening to my ideas,
> "Signuno".
>
>
>
>>>     <sign gloss="good?">
>>>       <symbol x="8"
>> y="24">01-05-011-01-01-01</symbol>
>>>       <symbol x="5"
>> y="0">03-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
>>>       <symbol x="27"
>> y="36">02-05-001-01-01-01</symbol>
>>>       <symbol x="4"
>> y="64">08-04-006-01-01-01</symbol>
>>>       <symbol x="24"
>> y="16">08-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
>>>     </sign>
>>>   </swml>
>
> See also
> http://w3.org/International/
> http://signwriting.org/
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/sw-l.html
> http://www.evertype.com/standards/iso639/iana-lang-assignments.html
>
>
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