[sw-l] Question....Creating SWML-S with SignMaker

[Charles Butler]

I like SignText as that is what you are generating is
text in Sign and it isn't tied to "sentence" which
presumes a certain kind of grammar.

SignDoc you could use for document layout commands
like Word or other programs.  So the .sgn is one kind
of generated SignDoc.

SST for Sign Sentence Translator or STG for Sign Text
Generator might even be better.

I'm just brainstorming here, but feel free to coalesce
on something that works for everyone.

Charles Butler



--- Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:

> SignWriting List
> October 16, 2004
>
> Ha! Goodness...I would never have thought of that
> one, Charles! Thanks
> for telling us ;-)
>
> How about a shorter name, like SignDocs or SignText?
> Do SD or ST have
> any problems? smile...
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ------------------------
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2004, at 9:16 AM, Charles Butler wrote:
>
> > Val & Steve,
> >
> > I hate to tell you, but SSM would have unfortunate
> > implications in English.  It would look like
> > sex-sado-masochism.  How about Sign Sentence
> Generator
> > (SSG) instead.  This way there is no mistaking the
> > intent to an international audience.
> >
> > Charles Butler
> >
> > --- Stephen Slevinski <slevin at PUDL.INFO> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Val,
> >>
> >> A new name may be needed, lets use Sign Sentence
> >> Maker (or SSM for short).
> >>
> >> Currently, SSM is a more technical, less end user
> >> solution.  Creating a 50
> >> page document is possible, but editing would be
> >> painful.  As of now, SSM is
> >> best for free-writing or transcription.
> >>
> >> SSM can type sentences.  The SWML-S example with
> >> lanes was created with SSM.
> >> It took me about 5 minutes to create the example.
> >> http://www.oculog.net/swml/dump.php
> >>
> >> You are correct, the Add and Middle button do the
> >> same thing.
> >>
> >> It should be possible to create PDFs from SWML
> >> directly.  However, SSM
> >> contains no formatting other than sentences with
> >> lanes.  No headers, titles,
> >> paragraphs, ...
> >>
> >> And you are going to have to teach how to write
> with
> >> lanes, ha ha :)
> >> Something else on your plate.  But I know lanes
> are
> >> a special feature that
> >> you would love to talk about.
> >>
> >> -Stephen
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On
> >> Behalf Of Valerie Sutton
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:35 AM
> >> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >> Subject: [sw-l] Question....Creating SWML-S with
> >> SignMaker
> >>
> >>
> >> SignWriting List
> >> October 15, 2004
> >>
> >> Stephen Slevinski wrote:
> >>> Use SignMaker as usual to design a sign.  When
> the
> >> sign is completed,
> >>> change
> >>> the name of the gloss from "sign-1" to a more
> >> meaningful name.  Press
> >>> Add
> >>> for writing without lanes.  Or press Left,
> Middle,
> >> or Right to add the
> >>> sign
> >>> to the corresponding lane.
> >>
> >>
> >> Stephen -
> >> Does this new SignMaker-SWML-S program create
> >> sentences? How could Sign
> >> Lanes have anything to do with this, unless you
> are
> >> creating real
> >> documents? ...As you know, any sign can be in any
> >> lane at different
> >> times, depending on the grammar of the
> >> sentence...And I wonder why
> >> anyone would want to choose "writing without
> >> lanes"...? If they do
> >> that, that is just the middle lane...so it could
> >> default to the middle
> >> lane unless you choose another lane...
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, no one has ever typed lanes
> >> before...except by writing by
> >> hand, or with a paint program where I manipulated
> >> the signs to go into
> >> those lanes...so the whole SignWriting world is
> >> going to have to learn
> >> how to use lanes and I will love to teach lessons
> on
> >> that...
> >>
> >> I look forward to your answer - If your
> >> SignMaker-SWML-S is a document
> >> creator....on the web...then I will use it...I
> think
> >> you should call it
> >> Sign-Sentence-Maker! or SignDocs or
> something...and
> >> people could create
> >> PDFs from the web pages and print the
> documents...
> >>
> >> Val ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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