[sw-l] SWDB - Linguistic SignWriting Database

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Mon Oct 25 14:49:55 UTC 2004


SignWriting List
October 25, 2004

Hello Dan and Everyone -
Thank you for this message, Dan. I am not a programmer, so I do not
understand what you said below, but that is ok. The only thing that
works with me is showing me a sign written in SignWriting...I assume
that you are not saying that symbols should be written with colors? As
you know, we have written symbols with colors for Deaf children...that
worked very well. But you are talking about how to program a sign with
one hand on top of the other? Would it end up looking the same as it
does when we write? That is all that matters with me...

Now, I want to explain one thing...When you look at the attached
diagram...Number 1 has a hairline of white surrounding the entire
handshape that is on top...This is subtle on purpose. If we do a
thicker white border around the hand that is on top, it can start
looking like the flat hand underneath is parallel to the floor...as you
know a space on the hand means parallel to the floor, so the marking of
which hand is on top was meant to be subtle, so that people will see
the symbol on top better without realizing anything special was
done...Please see attached....

Meanwhile, I am happy to create symbols in the IMWA in any format
requested...and I will leave the programming techniques to all of you -
Many thanks for your input -

Val ;-)

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dparvaz at MAC.COM wrote:
> I see the difference, but it's a bit on the subtle side. Having an
> opaque ("white") color for the handshape would make distinction easier
> to see. I don't think it'd be that hard to do -- we could start with
> the original black-and white gifs, add a channel, and (beginning with
> some white pixel on the periphery) "flood" with a color we later make
> transparent with a simple transformation. That should handle most of
> the situations. When this is done, the "core" of the handshape will be
> opaque.
>
> Next, we simply need to determine which is on top. I suppose that
> could either be handled sequentially (later = more in front), or with
> a separate "top" attribute. That way, details about z-layers and so on
> could be left to the implementation.

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> Valerie Sutton wrote:
> Can you tell the difference between these two? I have used both in
> textbooks before...Tomorrow I will post more about this...number 1 was
> created specially in Photoshop just for this example....It could not
> be typed with SignWriter...but number 2 can be typed with
> SignWriter...


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