[sw-l] British Sign Language Flag in SignPuddle

Sandy Fleming sandy at FLEIMIN.DEMON.CO.UK
Wed Sep 8 21:19:20 UTC 2004


Stephen,

There are proposed codes at least, see:

http://www.evertype.com/standards/iso639/sign-language.html

Sandy

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[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Stephen Slevinski
Sent: 08 September 2004 21:53
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Subject: RE: [sw-l] British Sign Language Flag in SignPuddle


Hi List,

Sign Puddle uses country codes to divide the dictionaries.  It would be
better to use language codes.

Langauge codes and country codes have been formalized to avoid confusion.
ISO 639 describes the various language codes, but does not contain a single
sign language.  I'm speechless!

Does anyone know how we can get this changed?

-Stephen
www.oculog.net
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[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Stuart Thiessen
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [sw-l] British Sign Language Flag in SignPuddle


And in the Philipines and to some extent in some other countries I believe.
This is where sign languages don't always follow country lines.

The opposite quandry, I suppose, is where you have multiple sign languages
in a country such as Spain, India, and others.  Even Canada fits in both
categories where it uses ASL and LSQ.

The exceptions certainly make life interesting. I believe Valerie went with
the flag idea so that we wouldn't have a continuation of the acronym debate
... such as ... Is BSL British Sign Language or Brazilian Sign Language?  Or
should we use UKSL ... or LSB for Brazil ... or ..........Should Argentine
Sign Language be ASL or LSA or LAS .....

By using the flags, we might have some idea of its affiliation without
getting into the acronym thing.  But there are still these challenges.  Ah,
well!

What's life without some controversy to keep things lively, eh? ;-)

Stuart

Sandy Fleming wrote:
Trevor,

I believe they use both BSL and ISL there according to whether they're
catholic or protestant, though due to politics it's not easy to make out
exactly what the truth is.

Anyway, why use the flag of the USA for ASL? It's the usual sign language in
Canada too, isn't it?

Sandy


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[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Trevor Jenkins
Sent: 08 September 2004 19:22
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Subject: RE: [sw-l] British Sign Language Flag in SignPuddle


On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Sandy Fleming <sandy at FLEIMIN.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:


It should be the Union Jack since, unlike English, BSL is

indigenous to the

whole of the UK.

You sure about that? North Ireland (a constituent part of the UK) surely
uses IRL.


Sandy


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Valerie Sutton

Sent: 07 September 2004 18:46
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Subject: Re: [sw-l] British Sign Language Flag in SignPuddle


SignWriting List
September 7, 2004

Sandy-
At the bottom of SignPuddle pages, you can click on a tiny flag to
change countries. Stephen used the tiny flag for England (or Great
Britain). When you click on that flag, it will take you to the BSL
page...Meanwhile, I was using the flag for UK on other web pages...We
need to coordinate our web pages so we are using the same flag to
represent BSL...Which flag do you choose? ...smile ...Val ;-)






Regards, Trevor

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