[sw-l] A spock handshape? Query

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Wed Sep 29 16:51:01 UTC 2004

Here's an illustration (in case it didn't come through) about the Spock sign, handshapes, and history.

Bill Reese <wreese01 at TAMPABAY.RR.COM> wrote:
I don't think Charles is criticising or being unkind.  He is being rather direct about his observation and opinion.  It may sound like criticism.  Many times, the subtlety of the English language isn't picked up well by those who are hard of hearing.  I'm constantly being reminded of this myself and seek to find different ways to say things.  I don't want to offend hearing people or late-deafened people who understand the subtleties.   I'm also an engineer, so I tend to analyze something as a problem with a concomitant solution.  Such objectiveness may unwittingly irritate those with subjective sensibilities.

Kiss and makeup Charles!  :-)


Valerie Sutton wrote:
SignWriting List
September 29, 2004

Charles -
It feels like you are criticising me for not being perfect and knowing every symbol you need in advance...No one is denying anyone any symbols!...New symbols can be added at any time. All symbols are possible, with my hard work entering all 96 GIFs, and then Stephen's hard work to inserting them....So I am asking that you be patient and kind to me, as I have a lot on my shoulders...

I will now answer Signuno next message...Val ;-)


On Sep 29, 2004, at 8:19 AM, Charles Butler wrote:

So, as I suspected 01-05-018 is the correct shape, but the thumb is missing.  This symbol is so ubiquitous in the SF world that we need this shape with the thumb included in the IMWA.  There are a lot of "weird" handshapes, but this particular one is now universal for "live long and prosper".


Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
SignWriting List
September 29, 2004

Charles Butler wrote:
> 01-05-018-01-02-01 is the closest one I can find.
> This has the two pairs of fingers together, I think.  But I don't see
> the thumb.

Although searching for symbols in SymbolBank and SignBank Portal 7 is
the most accurate way to find a symbol, because it gives you the name
and number of each symbol, a very fast and visual way to see the IMWA
symbols is to go to SignMaker. It opens with a listing of all 50 groups
of the IMWA....Then click on a Group symbol to see the BaseSymbols in
each group...If you click on the 5 handshape....see next message...

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