Elliptical circle vs. True circle

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Mon Aug 1 11:41:32 UTC 2005

I think you are both right, Valerie and Stuart.  My two drawings show two distinct movements, one with continuous circles, with changing speeds, the second with jerky motions, like the feeling of revving up an engine and so getting three distinct motions.

Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
SignWriting List
July 31, 2005

> On Jul 31, 2005, at 7:47 PM, Charles Butler wrote:
> Meanwhile, here is FLY ON AND ON done with a circle rather than a 
> line and a D underhook. I see it as two distinct movements, so the 
> other had two distinct pieces.

Hello Charles and Stuart!
This is a good attempt at some very hard movements to write. You are 
writing so much, Charles...I am so glad to see it!

This is what you wrote, in the first sign (to the left in the 
attached diagram)...

1. Airplane handshape.
2. 2 circles parallel the diagonal plane
3. The part of the circle closer to my chest is slow and tense.
4. The part of the circle further away from my chest is fast and 
5. The circles are not eliptical. They flow one after the other 
without pause.

Is that what you wanted for the first one?...(the shortened one)....

The longer version in your attached diagram is not the same movement 
at all...were you thinking of them as the same thing? Actually this 
helps answer a question by Ingvild Roald about jerky and small 
circles...so see next message...

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