PHILIPPINES and NETHERLANDS

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
August 15, 2005

Hi Suzanne -
It is a good idea for later...SignPuddle 1.0...the one we are using  
now...is on a server that does not support Unicode...so I would have  
to take pictures of the written languages and post them as graphics,  
and I do not have the time right now! Writing Czech would be very  
hard because our current web server does not have support for those  
alphabetic characters . I need to take a picture of the names in each  
script...Japanese for example...The Arabic Nations section should be  
written in Arabic...

Perhaps for the new private SignPuddles that are coming this Fall,  
which will support Unicode...I can hone all the writing about each  
language in the language from that country...smile...that will be a  
great idea!

This Fall we will have two SignPuddles...

Community SignPuddles are the ones we are using right now. They are  
open to anyone who wants to add signs. And we will continue to use  
them no matter what.

Private SignPuddles, for specific projects, which can be published on  
the web as official, unchangeable dictionaries with video, are coming  
this Fall. Research groups or anyone who wants a private Puddle, can  
pay a fee to be able to upload video etc...And the private Puddles  
will have Unicode support for writing is many spoken languages...

So a lot to look forward to!  Val ;-)

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On Aug 15, 2005, at 3:22 AM, Suzanne Pach wrote:

> Well, maybe it is an idea to write the names in the
> SignPuddle all in the language of the different countries,
> so Nederlandse Gebarentaal, Deutsche Gebaerensprache(??),
> etc...
>
>
>> Hey u
>>
>> Trude Schermer, the director of the Dutch Sign Language
>> Centre (NGC), was
>> saying that the preferred term is "Sign Language of the
>> Netherlands" but I
>> told her most sign linguists said either Dutch Sign
>> Language or NGT - with
>> the trend going on in the EU, we tend to use the original
>> abbreviations -
>> for instance, how will we differ between Greek and German
>> if we call it GSL
>> for both?
>>
>> German = DGS for instance
>>
>> Greek = ENG I think - let me double check - yeah its ENG
>>
>> French = LSF
>>
>> Flanders = VGT
>>
>> So on
>>
>> We usually use the term "NGT" when talking about Dutch
>> Sign Language (or
>> Sign Language of the Netherlands)
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>>> [mailto:owner-sw-
>>> l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] On Behalf Of Suzanne Pach
>>> Sent: 15 August 2005 10:25
>>> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] PHILIPPINES and NETHERLANDS
>>>
>>> Hi Valerie,
>>>
>>> Thank you for changing the name. Well, I'm not such an
>>> expert of how we are called over the world, but Dutch
>>> sounds the most natural to me (though of course it is a
>>> bit strange, probably they just confused us with our
>>> neighbours.. so then they had to be called german... :)
>>>
>>> Suzanne.
>>>
>>> Ps Did anybody ever use SignWriting to write down
>>> juglling
>>> movements?
>>>
>>>
>>>> SignWriting List
>>>> August 11, 2005
>>>>
>>>> For the Philippines and the Netherlands...
>>>>
>>>> I have now changed the names of your sign languages on
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> directory
>>>> page of SignPuddle...other changes need to be made on
>>>> other
>>>> SignPuddle pages, but right now, this web page has
>>>>
>>> been
>>>
>>>> changed...
>>>> (see attached diagram)
>>>>
>>>> SignPuddle Directory
>>>> http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle
>>>>
>>>> When I lived in Denmark, I had been told that I should
>>>> never use the
>>>> words Holland or Dutch...that the people of the
>>>> Netherlands preferred
>>>> the words ... the Netherlands ... so I dropped the
>>>>
>>> words
>>>
>>>> Holland and
>>>> Dutch from my English vocabulary...so it seems strange
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> call it
>>>> Dutch Sign Language, but Suzanne of course knows
>>>>
>>> best...I
>>>
>>>> am only a
>>>> foreigner when it comes to these names, and trends
>>>>
>>> change
>>>
>>>> too...I was
>>>> told that, back in the 1970's!....So I am
>>>>
>>> out-of-date...
>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Val ;-)
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