[sw-l] Spelling of ASL Wallet (retry #3)

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Wed Jun 15 18:18:34 UTC 2005

I'm specifically responding to this message about
"behind the arrows."  I would completely agree with
the writer.  I always thought for a sign like this
where the "ending" action was directly at the end of
the arrow, the handshape showing the final position
should be AT the arrow tip, not below it.

Here is my variant on Wallets, which I think shows
what the reader was getting at.  None of our writings,
until this one, show the final position at the point
of the movement arrow, which I think is much clearer.
It's not a separate sign, which would be below the
first position, but a movement "within" a sign, which
to me should be "at the tip of the arrow" whether up,
down, or to the side.

--- Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:

> SignWriting List
> June 15, 2005
> > Mark Penner from Japan wrote:
> > I'm looking at "wallet" on signpuddle, and see a
> potential source of
> > confusion. I thought that starting handshapes
> belonged "behind" the
> > arrows, and ending handshapes "in front" (where
> the arrow is heading).
> > If that is the case, I would think that you would
> want to reverse the
> > handshapes, or get rid of them entirely (as in
> "wallet-2"). I don't
> > know
> > the ASL sign for wallet, but from Stuart's
> description, it sounds like
> > it starts with the hands flat against each other,
> and ends with
> > only the
> > fingertips touching. (If I am wrong, ignore this
> post!!)
> ----------------------------
> Hello Mark, Stuart and Everyone!
> You are right, Mark. The rule is exactly as you say
> above. smile.
> Occasionally there are a few exceptions, but they
> are rare. Usually
> those rare cases cluster all the movement symbols
> into one group and
> place the movement cluster between the beginning and
> ending handshape
> (see wallet 5 in the attached diagram)...
> If you now go to SignPuddle, in the ASL dictionary,
> search for WALLET
> and you will find 6 ways to write the sign. I just
> added the last
> four...Here they are attached. Tell me which ones
> you like or
> dislike...Shall we throw out some of them?...and
> thanks for the
> excellent input, Mark...
> >
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