AW: [sw-l] Spelling of ASL Wallet (retry #3)

[Charles Butler]

I can understand you wanting the take out the
movement, but isn't that the whole point of sign
writing, to show the movement, not just the hands, to
be able to show "precisely" how a movement is
accomplished, by a wrist flex, rather than through an
arm movement.

I'd like, however, to know how to show the wrist flex,
with the arrows actually having the end position at
the tip of the arrow, else any of your writings, to
me, have been confusing, as the arrows point in a
direction, and the end of the direction is where I
expect to see the next handshape.


--- Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:

> SignWriting List
> June 15, 2005
>
> > Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
> > the only sign that is obvious and easy to
> understand  - from my
> > point of
> > view - with my ideas of reading and writing is #6
> !!!!!!!!
> >
> > I cannot understand the interpretation of the
> wrist-flexing in your
> > spelling
> > - at least I would get a completely different
> performance ( perhaps a
> > different kind of wallet)
> >
> > Interesting to me - and I see that for the first
> time !!!!! - your
> > decision
> > to add a thin line in order to describe a
> follow-up movement -
> > (really interesting and good support in several
> other cases - I
> > will keep
> > that in my mind.)
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> Hello Stefan and Everyone!
> This is a helpful message, because it brings up
> several important
> points. The vertical line that is between the
> sections of the sign in
> number 6, is called a Hyphen. We use hypens in
> English, for example,
> in the word re-try...it is a little line between
> sections of a
> word...some words in English require hypens and
> others do not...
>
> So the Hyphen Line in SignWriting is located in the
> Punctuation
> Symbols. It is a thin single line that divides
> sections of one sign.
> And it can be written either horizontally or
> vertically...in the
> attached you can see number 6 and 7...
>
> And that was why I was concerned for mis-readings of
> the underlining
> for proper names, because I was afraid it might get
> confused with
> either shoulder lines, or possibly the Hyphen
> Line...
>
> And the 8th example in the attached is another
> possible
> writing...showing two pressing motions without using
> the Wrist-Axial
> movement arrows...The use of the Wrist arrows is not
> wrong, but it is
> a rare usage...and I can certainly see how you could
> mis-read it,
> Stefan...so if we could eliminate those arrows but
> create a standard
> for two pressings, to be written like number 8, then
> we could
> simplify the writing...
>
> Your thoughts?...
>
>