[sw-l] FRENCH-SWISS Report ;-))

Sun Mar 6 20:45:15 UTC 2005

Here is the message I send to you...:

Dear Valerie,

As I told you a long time ago... I had translated the Sw lessons in 
french... I did send you a copy of my translation...
Time as gone bye... and you did'nt hear from me for a while...! I had 
to finish my studies in linguistics (finally over in march!) and our 
family grew bigger with the arrival of our third kid Noé (Noah) on the 
8th of June !! busy time eversince...

I didn't have time to do much more about SW... but I can't remember if 
I told you we (Siv Fosshaug (whom you know quite well, from the german 
part of Switzerland) Viviane (a deaf person from the french speaking 
part of Switzerland) and me) already had a one day SW introduction for 
the professionnal working in a school for the deaf in Fribourg... one 
day is too short... but it was a great first experience! Siv was 
teaching the course and I was translating from international sign 
language into french... for the hearing professionnal...!
We used my translation of your course... and Siv did a GREAT job... she 
managed to insert all the different examples in swiss-french sign 
language. She added everything... which took her a lot of time!

  We also did a second workshop beginning of september in Lausanne. In 
the group there were half  deaf sign language teachers and half sign 
language interpreters... it was a 2 day course... and was much 
better... we had more time to go through everything... and to do the 
different games we prepared.

Siv and Viviane also taught a one day course to the future sign 
language interpreter's course...

as you see SW is preading over here!!! we also started to have 
meetings... (all people who had the introduction couse are welcome to 
participate) to practice SignEcriture together and improve our 
skills...
SignPuddle's dictionnary is a great tool to work together too... and 
people are really motivated!!!

Siv did some corrections  of the different samples... and now we have a 
beautiful course which can be put on the web! I'll send you a copy on a 
CD as it's a too big document to send on the mail!!!
On the CD, you'll find two different format (word and pdf...) up to you 
to see how you manag eto put it  on the web

I hope that having the course available on internet will allow other 
people to join our group... and discover this beautiful way of writing 
sign languages!!!

Thanks again for all you've done!!!

Hope to hear from you soon

Anny

Le 5 mars 05, à 22:46, Valerie Sutton a écrit :

> SignWriting List
> March 5, 2005
>
> Anny -
> I want to thank you for your wonderful report you sent me privately, 
> about a week ago, giving a summary of your SignWriting activities in 
> French-Switzerland!
>
> I am sad to say that I lost that email. We moved our entire web server 
> and email for signwriting.org...over to a bigger computer...a bigger 
> server...so we can expand the SignBank web site later...and in the 
> process our email wasn't working right, and I was playing with it, and 
> suddenly I realized I had lost around 20 messages...I felt so bad!! I 
> was really upset when I remembered that one of those was your 
> message...
>
> So if you have a copy of it, can you post it to the SignWriting List 
> again?...That would be great....Many thanks -
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ---------------------------
>
> On Mar 5, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>
>> SignWriting List
>> March 5, 2005
>>
>> Dear SignWriting List, and Anny!!
>> Thank you for this question. Did you know, that in 
>> German-Switzerland, Dr. Penny Boyes Braem and I have been working 
>> together to write a grant for a new SignBank web site? It would work 
>> like this:
>>
>> 1. SignPuddle will remain the FREE online dictionary, that is also 
>> open to anyone adding signs...just as it is now.
>>
>> BUT...
>>
>> 2. We will also offer official SIGNBANKS...those are dictionaries 
>> online that have been created by one group privately, with video and 
>> all the signs written in SignWriting and the general public will be 
>> able to benefit from these dictionaries, but will not be able to add 
>> signs to them...they will be stable dictionaries that are created by 
>> a private research group...
>>
>> 3. The private research groups will have their own private web areas 
>> to do their dictionary editing, to create number 2 above...
>>
>> ...So when you visit the SignBank web site someday, you will be able 
>> to enter into three different doors...
>>
>> ... SignPuddle Public Dictionaries
>> ...The official SignBanks for Sign Languages all over the world, that 
>> include video and cannot be changed
>> ... A private Dictionary Editors section for those research groups 
>> who are creating number 2...the official SignBanks...
>>
>> So you can see that your friends, Anny, were thinking of the latter 
>> two...but we need to keep the first one, SignPuddle, open to the 
>> general public to add signs to it, because people need to become 
>> inspired and how will they know if they want to do the more serious 
>> dictionary building if they do not try it first?
>>
>> Now...the one catch is that is costs us a lot of money to do this big 
>> job of having three different sections to the SignBank web site, and 
>> so Penny is helping me write a grant to help pay for all this...If 
>> your group wants to have a private SignBank before we get the funding 
>> from a grant, then they could pay a fee and we will create their 
>> private editing area immediately for them...
>>
>> Meanwhile, SignPuddle will always be free and you can continue 
>> forever the way you have been doing it right now, if you wish -
>>
>> Hope this helps...Talk to Penny about all this - she can tell you 
>> more!!
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>> ---------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>> I worked with the group of persons who all had a introduction course 
>>> on SW today... we have meetings every six weeks... and try to 
>>> practice Sw together... there were a few questions about 
>>> SignPuddle...:
>>>
>>> is there a way we could see that an item into the dictionnary is not 
>>> "acceptped" by the group... they don't like the idea of anyone being 
>>> able to write anything in the dictionnary...
>>> I told them about my role (as an editor) to check the dictionnary... 
>>> take away wrong signs... or correct.... but, as a hearing... my 
>>> intention was to share with the group (deaf and hearing 
>>> partifipants) before deciding of the best way to write down a 
>>> sign... as we only meet once in a while... some "wrong signs" might 
>>> stay inthe dictonnary for a long time... and it might get people 
>>> confused!!!
>>>
>>> Is there any way one could see that an added sign has been accepted 
>>> (and by extension... that a new sign still has to be approved??) 
>>> maybe using colour... or a code, ...
>>>
>>> They ask if only the participants could have a access code to get 
>>> into the SignMaker.... any one of you did have such problems ??
>>> I think it's important than anyone can access SignMaker... but also 
>>> understand their point of view... they don'nt want wrong stuff to 
>>> stay in the dictionnary for a long time!!
>>>
>>> Another question...: is there a way to send mail to more than one 
>>> person at a time... into SignMail ??
>>>
>>> Thanks for letting me know!
>>>
>>> we still have problems about english... I tod them tha tw should 
>>> think of symbols for every button... in LSF Swiss french... we'll do 
>>> that next time we meet and I'll send it to Valerie (Valerie I did 
>>> send you the french words already... I'll add the sign into 
>>> signpuddle for every button... and let you know once I'M done!)
>>>
>>>
>>> Anny
>>> Le 3 mars 05, à 23:45, Stephen Slevinski a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Anny,
>>>>
>>>> This is an image caching problem.  Pressing Refresh on the browser 
>>>> will
>>>> force the browser to retrieve the new image for house.  I've know 
>>>> about this
>>>> for a while.  Sorry I haven't fixed it yet.
>>>>
>>>> The details...
>>>> Your browser caches the image of house.  When you delete house, the 
>>>> browser
>>>> still has the image cached.  When you rename house_2 to house, the 
>>>> browser
>>>> is displaying the image that is has cached.  Pressing refresh will 
>>>> force the
>>>> browser to get the new image for house from the server.
>>>>
>>>> -Stephen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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