[sw-l] Adding Classifiers to SignPuddle Dictionaries

[Stuart Thiessen]

I think maybe the hyphen would be a better choice for a few reasons
(which will change in the future, but still worth noting for now unless
Stephen thinks it won't be a problem):

1. In some operating systems, the colon (:) is a special character.  In
Windows, it serves to identify the drive. In Mac 9 and earlier, it was
used to separate the folder names. I believe it also has significance
in other operating systems probably not used on this list. ;-).  Why is
that important? Well, right now, all entries to SignPuddle are actually
files saved to the disk. So, we should follow filename rules when
naming the signs. Later, when the SignPuddle is moved to a database, it
won't matter. If people use SignPuddle on other operating systems and
we share data between Puddles, we should probably try to stick with
symbols that are safe in all operating systems. That is my opinion ...
less wear and tear on the programmers :)

2. The hyphen and the underscore are two symbols that do not have
special significance to the operating system.  Like Stephen commented,
we have already begun using the underscore (_) as a version separator.
So that means the hyphen may be better for this purpose.

Stuart

On Mar 15, 2005, at 17:52, Valerie Sutton wrote:

> SignWriting List
> March 15, 2005
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> Ok, Stephen...So tell us what to do...Should we enter classifiers into
> SignPuddle right now, and if yes, then in what format?...CL:3 for
> example...does not have underscores....Or should we wait altogether
> until your programming is ready......Val ;-)
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> On Mar 15, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Stephen Slevinski wrote:
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>> Hi Val,
>>
>> I think she was refering to sending mail with SignPuddle.  When you
>> send
>> mail, you use gloss.  You have no chance to modify the signs.
>>
>> This will change.  In the future, you will be able to build emails
>> interactively.  First you could search for signs (by gloss or symbol),
>> modify the sign (using SignMaker), and then add it to the email.
>> When this
>> is possible, having general classifiers in a dictionary would be more
>> useful.
>>
>> -Stephen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Valerie
>> Sutton
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:23 PM
>> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Adding Classifiers to SignPuddle Dictionaries
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>> SignWriting List
>> March 15, 2005
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>> On Mar 15, 2005, at 2:26 PM, Nancy Emery wrote:
>>> But for actually using them - since the location, movement and
>>> orientation
>>> have to be added anyway, since they depend on what is being said with
>>> the
>>> classifier, I'm not sure that it would be much more helpful to take
>>> the
>>> handshape from the dictionary than just to compose the sign from
>>> scratch....
>>> It's just that in certain texts some classifier constructions are
>>> used
>>> over
>>> and over, and it is nice to be able to cut, paste and modify rather
>>> than
>>> rebuild the whole thing.  But I don't know that dictionary signs can
>>> be
>>> modified by the user anyway...
>>
>> Signs can be modified in the public SignPuddles, if you are a
>> Dictionary Editor with a password. I can invite you to be an Editor,
>> if
>> you wish, and you could try to enter a few classifiers and then point
>> us to them on the web and we can all look at them...how about that? A
>> good way to discuss the issue...
>>
>> Val ;-)
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