[sw-l] New Signs in BSL Dictionary

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
March 16, 2005

Dear SW List, Shane, Sandy and everyone -
Thanks for these messages...We are getting somewhere now...it is fun!
As you know, I am going to place the coloring-book-workbook on the web
in several signed languages, and we can then continue to translate that
little book sign by sign, which will at least gets you started...

Meanwhile, I am sorry to say I have to be off the internet for the next
two days...There is a big order for 15 sets of videos and booklets for
SignWriting and I am the only one here to fulfill the order...and there
is a rush on it...so I have to print and bind the books and ship three
big boxes by Friday...then I will be back hopefully with a web page for
the translation, and another for the French-Swiss Lessons in
SignWriting...

See ya online then!

Thanks for all your input -

Val ;-)

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On Mar 15, 2005, at 8:12 PM, Shane Gilchrist Ó hEorpa wrote:

> Val,
>
> I thought the BSL sign for "house" came from ASL because of the "h"
> shape -
> in the old days, people used my first sign for "house".
>
> YOUR SUGGESTION - wonderful - I like that.
>
> Sandy got the sign-spelling wrong - I know I'll prolly do the same
> myself as
> Sandy and I are still in our cotton nappies - but Sandy and I are
> doing the
> same sign - you're more brave than me, Sandy!!! - but I'll go for your
> suggestion, Val, because its clear and simple - its important to keep
> signs
> short and simple (same for Chinese characters I suppose)
>
> But be careful - unlike ASL, NISL and proper BSL depends HEAVILY on the
> context - for instance, u can't use it to sign "bank house" - you have
> to
> use the old "roof" sign ;) - some oralies (deafies whose first lang is
> English) would sign it as "bank build-up" *clings*
>
> Yeah - I like your suggestion, Val.
>
> Shane
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:owner-sw-
>> l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] On Behalf Of Valerie Sutton
>> Sent: 16 March 2005 01:11
>> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] New Signs in BSL Dictionary
>>
>> SignWriting List
>> March 15, 2005
>>
>> Sandy Fleming wrote:
>>> Meanwhile, if anyone feels like checking my new signs for spelling
>>> mistakes and discussing them on the list, that would be great!
>>
>> Great, Sandy and Shane -
>> This is the perfect opportunity to discuss the other sign for HOUSE
>> that Shane sent to me, in a video...The videos were very dark for some
>> reason...so the photos are not so good in this diagram, but you can
>> see
>> the plam facing. Sandy's writing has a different palm facing than
>> Shane's at the end of the sign...perhaps that is just a stylistic
>> difference, or a dialectical difference? Should we have both versions
>> in the dictionary? Look at the way Val would write it ...Here in the
>> US
>> there are many people who change the palm facing of the ASL sign too,
>> at the end of the sign, when it goes down, but we do not bother to
>> write the finishing position, since people recognize the sign without
>> it...we just write the first position and people read the sign just
>> fine...
>>
>> So which version is best for Deaf children in a BSL coloring book?....
>
>