LESSONS in SignSpelling

[Charles Butler]

Valerie,
 
Take a look at this sign.
 
Here is an unusual sign.  It shows the hand starting at a closed A shape, then gradually opening and shutting to a more elongated wedge shape, finally finishing with a B handshape.
 
This is the sign for HIERARCHY (Computer) in the Rochester Institute of the Deaf sign book for Computer-Related Sign Language.  Is this the best way to write it?  It feels as if the neutral opening handshapes are as important as the three closed shapes, and I don't see any way to reduce them to just closed shapes with missing the variant partially opened hands.
 
Charles
 


Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
SignWriting ListOctober 13, 2005


Hello Kathleen and Everyone!
Great. Glad you asked. No, the writing in the sign for Limburg is not correct. And there are a lot of signs like that in the Flemish dictionaries online...both in SignPuddle and in the Flemish Online Dictionary. But we can clean this up quickly in SignPuddle at least... I will post a lesson on the Finger Movement Symbols tomorrow, October 14th...and show you how to write the signs that use that symbol...


Val ;-)


PS. I am so delighted to have this chance to share with you, Kathleen...I have wanted to tell you about this specific symbol for a long time, but we all got so busy with the Sympoisum and other things...so now is the time....Talk to you tomorrow... smile...;-))


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On Oct 13, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:


Hello Val,

I'm with you about the universe and arrow. No problem, I understand much better now! It's very clear to me where to write them ;) I see the difference between our signs and the ones you made. Thanks!

For the    finger movement symbol in Mama. So this is all 5 fingers moving at once and this is  one or two fingers moving twice? So what is this than? 

This in incorrect (the first sign is '21' where 3 fingers contact each other and the second is 'Limburg' -place in Flanders- where the fingers moves two times)    

  

And this is correct (I hope)

   And is there a rule for where to put the contactsymbol in relation to the hands or ... ?

Thank you Val ;)

Greetings Kathleen




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From:  "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
Reply-To:  sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
To:  "List SIGNWRITING" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
CC:  "Kathleen Heylen" <Kathjeleen at HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:  Re: [sw-l] LESSONS in SignSpelling
Date:  Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:16:14 -0700
>SignWriting List
>October 13, 2005
>
>Lessons in SignSpelling continued...
>
>Ok. Kathleen and others from Flanders...smile...Here are all 10 
>signs  in one very long diagram (see attached)....Do you understand 
>why I  wrote the 10 Flemish signs the way I did? It is based on the  
>SignSpelling rules...
>
>The sign for Papa (number 7 below) is very important because it is 
>in  your Goldilocks books, and needs to be changed in those books. 
>The  sign for Mama also has the same kind of movement...In your old  
>writing of those signs, there was a misunderstanding about the 
>Finger  Movement symbols... That double-stacked symbol that you used 
>before,  does not mean a single finger closing twice...I can see how 
>that  misunderstanding could happen, but unfortunately it means 
>something  else...It means all five fingers doing a single Finger 
>Trill...I can  explain in more detail if you wish...I look forward 
>to hearing from  you...Go through every sign to review why the 
>arrows are placed where  they are placed...
>
>

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