LESSONS in SignSpelling and SignPuddle

Steve Slevinski slevin at SIGNPUDDLE.NET
Mon Oct 24 19:49:43 UTC 2005

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Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:

> what do you mean by "refresh button " ?!?!
> Anny
>     *De : *"Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
>     *Répondre à : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>     *Date : *Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:25:02 -0700
>     *À : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>     *Objet : *Re: [sw-l] LESSONS in SignSpelling and SignPuddle
>     SignWriting List
>     October 24, 2005
>     Hello Anny and also Steve -
>     Maybe Steve can have other suggestions...
>     But for me, after I change the sign's name in SignPuddle, and I
>     press the Rename Button, I then have to press the Refresh Button
>     several times in my web browser, sometimes two or three times,
>     before the web browser can empty the cache, so that you see what
>     is really there...
>     As you know, web browsers hold the memory of what you saw before,
>     in the cache. So even when a name is changed, that cache will make
>     you see what was there before, even though internally the change
>     was made...so when you press the refresh button on your browser,
>     and it takes several times pressing refresh...then the cache is
>     emptied and you see what you really have...
>     When I make a small change in SignPuddle, I press the refresh
>     button three times and I see the sign change before my eyes to the
>     new one...
>     Which browser are you using?  Val ;-)
>     -----------------------------
>     Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
>         when. as an editor, I do exactly what you describe above...
>         everything works fine till I get to N° 11... when I do remame
>         My new sign (the one I just entered) and use the name of the
>         sign I just deleted... then on the screen I see the old
>         version of the sign (the one I just deleted...) and there's no
>         way I can get back to the one I changed and renamed as "Hello4"
>         whant am I doing wrong ?
>         Anny
>             *De : *"Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
>             *Répondre à : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>             *Date : *Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:15:16 -0700
>             *À : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>             *Objet : *Re: [sw-l] LESSONS in SignSpelling
>             SignWriting List
>             October 16, 2005
>             Hello Kathleen, Stefan, Ingvild, and Everyone!
>             I want to thank all of you for being so open to changing
>             and improving your dictionaries online. It means a lot to
>             see that these Rules are helping, and I feel
>             encouraged...I particularly want to thank Stefan, for
>             encouraging me to start teaching again with the
>             eLessons...and Honza too...thanks for that...sometimes I
>             need that encouragement...so I hope you all will keep
>             informing me of what you need...
>             You are right, that new writers would never think of such
>             rules...it takes skilled writers, who already have some
>             experience, to realize the importance of them, so I think
>             you are moving into a more advanced understanding of the
>             structure of writing movement...that is good, because as
>             SignWriting spreads in Belgium, Kathleen, newcomers could
>             have an easier experience, if they know these rules in
>             advance...as one of the pioneers, you have to go back to
>             fix the spellings...ugh! smile ;-)
>             Actually, so do we in the US...our ASL SignPuddle needs a
>             lot of cleaning too!!
>             How to make changes in SignPuddle? Here is how I
>             personally do it:
>             1. I go to Dictionary Editors, and login as an Editor.
>             2. Then, I scroll up to the top of the Dictionary Editor
>             section to search for the sign I want to clean...let us
>             pretend: I search for the sign HELLO.
>             3. I find three signs for HELLO...they are HELLO, HELLO_2,
>             HELLO_3.
>             4. I push the LOAD button for one of them, and sometimes I
>             have to refresh my screen to see the loaded sign...
>             5. I now have the sign in SignMaker, ready to be changed.
>             I make the change. I save the sign to the dictionary still
>             using the SAME name HELLO.
>             6. SignPuddle automatically puts a number on the end of
>             it...it becomes HELLO_4.
>             7. I then click on the Dictionary Editors icon again and
>             once again search for HELLO.
>             8. Let us imagine I want to replace the first HELLO with
>             the new one I just created...
>             9. First, I delete the first HELLO.
>             10. Then I scroll down and find the new HELLO that is
>             named HELLO_4.
>             11. I Rename that new one, to become HELLO without any
>             number. Push the Rename button.
>             12. Then press the Refresh button on your browser at least
>             TWO times.
>             13. Your new sign is now the first one on the list, and is
>             no longer number 4...
>              Everytime you want to replace a sign, you load it, change
>             it, and re-save it with the same name and then go back and
>             delete the original and rename the new one...
>             Hope that helps!
>             Val ;-)
>             --------------------
>                 Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:
>                 I'll print out these rules and will tape them next to
>                 the computers at my school so people who create new
>                 signs will not forget the rules ;) Also at home ;)
>                     Now the rules are much clearer , when I started
>                     creating signs I didn't think about all this. So
>                     I'll have to go through all the signs we made in
>                     the Flemish signpuddle to correct the signs, and
>                     I'll have to make adjustments to the
>                     Goldilocks documents.
>                     Have you any tips for me how to work fast and
>                     efficient with signpuddle? Because when I make a
>                     mistake usually I go to the puddle and log in as
>                     editor... then I load the sign and make the
>                     change. I have to save it under a different name
>                     or the same name with '_2' added. And then go
>                     through the 'delete' and 'change the name again'
>                     process.
>                     Greetings Kathleen

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