POLAND... Antarktyda again, plus 10 hand issues...

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
September 9, 2005

Lucyna - Do you remember when I asked the question to the List: What  
is the difference between Expressive and Receptive writing? And you  
answered that you would not answer that because you were not a  
beginner...smile?...I never meant to imply anyone was a beginner, but  
I was worried about some of the signs in your SignPuddle that look  
like they were written from the Receptive view rather than the  
Expressive view...so there was reason for my asking that question,  
and as you can see, the subject has now come up. I am happy it did ;-)

Actually I love the Receptive view and always use to write that way  
myself, but the one definite rule we have is to stay in the same  
viewpoint within one document. So we do not mix Receptive and  
Expressive together in the same document. The Expressive is the world  
standard way to write SignWriting so your SignPuddle needs to be  
consistently Expressive...

DanceWriting is oftentimes written receptively because we would sit  
in the audience and write the movements that the dancers were doing  
on stage...but that is another world altogether! Receptive in  
DanceWriting is very beautiful - I miss writing dance and look  
forward to returning to it someday...

And guess what...a young man who is a competing skateboarder has  
asked me to write skateboard movements...ha! it is great fun! And  
that I am writing receptively...

But that is not SignWriting, which is Expressive because we are  
expressing ourselves when we write...

Val ;-)

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> Lucyna Dlugolecka wrote:
>> I see! I thought it depends on the point of view! With signs  
>> without the head I used to put "up" arrows (as in the YOU sign,  
>> e.g.). I try to take the all rules logically :-). If I put a head  
>> to the sign, I start imagining that there is a "person" signing to  
>> me, and if the person move forward (toward me :-)), the floor  
>> parellel movement arrow is to be pointing down... So now I know I  
>> was wrong... thanks... I'll correct it tomorrow as now it's about  
>> midnight :-)
>
> On Sep 9, 2005, at 3:02 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:

> Oh my goodness, no! That is a big misunderstanding, although I can  
> see why that happened...Expressive is a little weird...It is as if  
> you are looking through the back of someone's head and feeling your  
> own face doing the facial expressions...
>
> Your idea above would mean that you were changing your writing and  
> mixing Receptive and Expressive...but no...if we choose to write in  
> the Expressive View, then we always remain in the Expressive view  
> at all times within the document.
>
> The American sign for NOT is a very similar sign...but we remain in  
> the Expressive view...So forward, in Expressive, is up on the page.  
> Back, in the Expressive, is down on the page. And when movement is  
> forward, even though you are touching your chin and the arrow seems  
> like it would go through the center of the facial circle, you still  
> remain Expressive and simply place the arrow over to the side a  
> little..
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