POLAND... Antarktyda again, plus 10 hand issues...

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
September 10, 2005

Hello Lucyna and Everyone...
You are very welcome. And thanks once again for sharing this with  
everyone, because I know that there are others who have had the same  
experiences. This is not uncommon. I have met others who have blended  
Receptive and Expressive before, so you are not alone. This will help  
them too...

I am sorry that my books have not been clear enough, Lucyna...I will  
try to think through how we can explain this better in the future...I  
am glad you told me ;-))

Val ;-)

P.S. I keep thinking about that historic time when we switched from  
receptive to expressive back in 1984. At first, I argued against the  
change, stating that when we contact the face, and then move forward,  
that the arrow would hit the face and look weird in the expressive.  
But our Deaf skilled Signwriters told me that that does not matter  
because they are not writing in a mirror...they are writing the way  
it feels to themselves while they are signing, without seeing  
themselves in a mirror, but feeling it on the right side of their own  
face, and so the arrow has to move forward somehow, keeping in the  
Expressive...so we slowly got used to certain spellings that have  
that configuration...moving the forward arrow over to the right side  
of the facial circle a little when necessary...it is just a matter of  
time and these spellings will become standardized and students will  
learn in a totally different way...they will accept the way the  
dictionary is...That is why I want to improve our E-lessons, with  
more and more SignSpelling guidelines, so we can standardize our  
writing around the world...There may always be some differences from  
country to country, just as there are with the Roman Alphabet...but  
nevertheless, we should try for standardization if we can...I would  
say in the next 5 years you will see a big difference...the  
SignSpelling Guidelines will be thick with structure! smile


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Lucyna Dlugolecka wrote:
> Hello Val.
> Thank you very much for your help.
>
> Val wrote:
> Lucyna - Do you remember when I asked the question to the List:  
> What is the difference between Expressive and Receptive writing?  
> And you answered that you would not answer that because you were  
> not a beginner...smile?...I never meant to imply anyone was a  
> beginner, but I was worried about some of the signs in your  
> SignPuddle that look like they were written from the Receptive view  
> rather than the Expressive view...so there was reason for my asking  
> that question, and as you can see, the subject has now come up. I  
> am happy it did ;-)
>
> Lucyna wrote:
> Sure, I remeber that. And I really knew the answer to your  
> question. I just know the theory because you explain the Expressive  
> and Receptive writing in your teaching materials. So, following  
> them, I did not put my right hand movement to the left side of the  
> written head if my writing were really Receptive :-). I didn't see  
> any arrows in your materials on the views, so I took it as  
> logically as I could, that is, I imagined that, for example, the  
> eyes in the head are mine and not of another signer. But somehow, I  
> was inclined to write signs as if they were reflected in a mirror...
>
> Now I seem to understand the question and I see how much I have to  
> correct again... :-).
>
> Lucy
>

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