FRANCE Sign for Etudiant

[Juliette Dalle]

I see...

The right position is number 2 not 1.

I have thought that this finger movement gives a closed position. I 
understand your view. We have met this problem, we thought that if the 
end position will not be closed then, we must write the end position. 
If it is a end closed position, we write teh finger movement... Since 
the children assume well it ;-)

In the other fact, we don't have many any end middle closed position. 
Often the end position is closed.. ;-)

have a nice day !

Juliette

Le mardi, 20 sep 2005, à 18:35 Europe/Paris, Valerie Sutton a écrit :

> SignWriting List
> September 20, 2005
>
> Juliette and Charles -
>
> I showed you this diagram because you said you were interested in 
> research and details...smile...
>
> Please see the attached diagram. When you write the Finger Movement 
> Symbols, without adding the second ending position, it technically can 
> mean ANY kind of closing, including a small closing that does not 
> touch at the end.
>
> Charles said that he would have assumed it must be number 2. And of 
> course, if you are from the western world, and use a signed language 
> that has some influence from French Sign Language, like American Sign 
> Language for example (smile), then of course you can assume that 
> ...and that is fine!
>
> But writing other signed languages, like the signed languages in 
> Africa or Asia, cannot make that assumption. So I was trying to 
> explain that in the research world, we like to write both positions to 
> make it clear, but if you are writing for your own language only, then 
> of course you do not have to write every detail...
>
> So Charles, you cannot assume that all signed languages will 
> automatically close to the touching position....Even it that seems 
> natural to you and me!  Val ;-)
>
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