FRANCE Sign for Etudiant

[Juliette Dalle]

Hm... The slipping symbol  isn't enough ? Is it a contact symbol, isn't 
it ?

Juliette

Le mardi, 20 sep 2005, à 23:07 Europe/Paris, Charles Butler a écrit :

> Could one add a contact star and only show the beginning open 
> position, using the ^* to indicate complete closure?
>  
> Charles
>
> Juliette Dalle <july.tigre at free.fr> wrote:
>
> I see...
>
> The right position is number 2 not 1.
>
> I have thought that this finger movement gives a closed position. I
> understand your view. We have met this problem, we thought that if the
> end position will not be closed then, we must write the end position.
> If it is a end closed position, we write teh finger movement... Since
> the children assume well it ;-)
>
> In the other fact, we don't have many any end middle closed position.
> Often the end position is closed.. ;-)
>
> have a nice day !
>
> Juliette
>
> Le mardi, 20 sep 2005, à 18:35 Europe/Paris, Valerie Sutton a écrit :
>
> > SignWriting List
> > September 20, 2005
> >
> > Juliette and Charles -
> >
> > I showed you this diagram because you said you were interested in
> > research and details...smile...
> >
> > Please see the attached diag! ram. When you write the Finger Movement
> > Symbols, without adding the second ending position, it technically 
> can
> > mean ANY kind of closing, including a small closing that does not
> > touch at the end.
> >
> > Charles said that he would have assumed it must be number 2. And of
> > course, if you are from the western world, and use a signed language
> > that has some influence from French Sign Language, like American Sign
> > Language for example (smile), then of course you can assume that
> > ...and that is fine!
> >
> > But writing other signed languages, like the signed languages in
> > Africa or Asia, cannot make that assumption. So I was trying to
> > explain that in the research world, we like to write both positions 
> to
> > make it clear, but if you are writing for your own language only, 
> then
> > of course you do not have to write every detail...
> >
> > So Charles, you cannot assume that all si! gned languages will
> > automatically close to the touching position....Even it that seems
> > natural to you and me! Val ;-)
> >
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