Writing the 4 Group in handwriting

Adam Frost adam at FROSTVILLAGE.COM
Fri Dec 1 16:48:11 UTC 2006

I agree, most have yet to get the "print" down. That is part of the reason I
have yet to share my ideas for the "cursive" handwriting. Maybe on of these
time, I can meet with Val and show her. (It isn't like she is TOO far from
me. Ha!)

As for the "printing," I would have to say that I normally outline the thumb
and then shade. However, you said that you have a hard time staying in the
lines. (I don't doubt that many people have that problem. Just look at how
people drive. Ha!) So I think that you have a valid question. I am curious
to see what the resolution is.


On 12/1/06, Stuart Thiessen <sw at passitonservices.org> wrote:
> I don't know if there is an official way as of yet. I think at this
> point we are still at the "print" stage where we try to make the
> handwritten symbol match the printed symbol. We haven't graduated to
> the "cursive" stage where the symbol may be significantly abbreviated
> but understandable. I know that Valerie wants to be sure that we all
> understand the print version before we begin to focus on the "cursive"
> type of symbol. My understanding is that her "cursive" versions rely
> alot on our intuition of the standard print system. If we have a solid
> understanding of the standard print system, then we will understand the
> "cursive" better. I don't know if "cursive" is the right word for it,
> since I have only seen samples of the writing without any understanding
> of the rules behind it.
> I find the 4 group frustrating to write. I did experiment with the idea
> of eliminating the thumb (to let it disappear into the palm), but it
> only works with 3 of the handshapes. If I eliminate the thumb in the
> other 5 handshapes in the 4 group, then there is nothing to distinguish
> it from similar handshapes in the 5 group where the thumb is on the
> side of the hand. So that is only a "partial" solution. Philip and I
> did discuss it yesterday and thought about this idea. What do you guys
> think ... for handwriting?
> Thanks,
> Stuart
> On Dec 1, 2006, at 9:07, Adam Frost wrote:
> > I really don't know what is the "official" way of handwritting SW, but
> > I use my own sorta "shorthand". I will have to some how show some of
> > my writing which is hard to do because I don't have a scanner.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > On 12/1/06, Kimberley Shaw <skifoot at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Stuart: I prefer to use a brush pen for Signwriting - that way I
> >> can do the palm of this handshape in 3 strokes, and then quickly add
> >> the fingers! The thumb-in handshapes are indeed tricky to write well.
> >> Best, Kim
> >>
> >> On 11/30/06, Stuart Thiessen <sw at passitonservices.org> wrote:
> >> > I am curious how people have been handwriting the 4 group. I tend to
> >> > have difficulty shading in a "4" handshape without either coloring
> >> in
> >> > the thumb or making so small that it is hard to really see. What
> >> > writing techniques have you been using to keep it looking right?
> >> Or do
> >> > you have a handwriting shortcut that you use to indicate the thumb
> >> > without using the white space?
> >> >
> >> > Stuart
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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